[Matroska-users] Mkclean sigsev on a specific file

julroy67 julroy67 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 18 00:45:51 CEST 2010


Sorry for the delay, but now, with this new release, it is finally fixed.

Really, good work ! :)
Thanks

2010/7/17 Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org>:
> I released new versions of both tools. They should now build more easily out
> of the box on Linux, including x64 variants.
> http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/mkvalidator/mkvalidator-0.1.11.tar.bz2
> http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/mkclean/mkclean-0.4.2.tar.bz2
>
> On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org> wrote:
>>
>> I already reported the problem to Handbrake. It's a low priority bug for
>> them.
>> I already fixed a bug that looks like this. Can you do another SVN
>> checkout to make sure you're using the right value ?
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 8:38 PM, julroy67 <julroy67 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice, good to hear it, thanks. But now, shall I report this to the
>>> handbrake devs ? And second one, I trie the svn version, and it seems
>>> to work, but now it is a libc segfault :
>>> http://julroy67.free.fr/DL/bt_libc.log :(
>>>
>>> But still thanks for the fix.
>>>
>>> 2010/7/16 Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org>:
>>> > Hi again,
>>> > I've identified the problem. It seems that Handbrake is writing a CRC
>>> > element at the wrong location (second element of SegmentInfo) and with
>>> > the
>>> > wrong size (12 instead of 4). That made mkclean behave inconsistently.
>>> > I've
>>> > identified other possible problems in mkclean and they are all fixed in
>>> > SVN.
>>> > I am not going to make a release today as I have other things I want to
>>> > put
>>> > in the next one (hopefully this week-end).
>>> > If you don't want to wait for the next release, you can get the latest
>>> > sources from SVN
>>> >
>>> > at https://matroska.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/matroska/trunk/foundation_src
>>> > You will need to copy <root>/mkclean/default_config.h into
>>> > <root>/config.h
>>> > before running "coremake gcc_linux_x64"
>>> > Steve
>>> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:41 PM, julroy67 <julroy67 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Ok, here is the dump http://julroy67.free.fr/DL/TGBS_4925_dump_1M>>> >> dd if=Test.mkv of=TGBS_4925_dump_1M bs=1M count=1 » should be
>>> >> correct).
>>> >>
>>> >> 2010/7/16 Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org>:
>>> >> > OK that all looks correct. Can you cut the first 1 or 2 first MB of
>>> >> > the
>>> >> > file
>>> >> > and send them to me ?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 4:30 PM, julroy67 <julroy67 at gmail.com>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Yes, it plays fine (VLC and Mplayer at least). The mkvinfo simple
>>> >> >> output : http://julroy67.free.fr/DL/TGBS_4925_mkvinfo.txt
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> 2010/7/16 Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org>:
>>> >> >> > OK it seems your file has no (found) Tracks. Does it play
>>> >> >> > correctly ?
>>> >> >> > It's
>>> >> >> > not normal for a file that big to have no Tracks (it's possible
>>> >> >> > for
>>> >> >> > files
>>> >> >> > with only chapters or attachments). And theoretically the code
>>> >> >> > should
>>> >> >> > exit
>>> >> >> > before the crash, as there is a check to see if there are Cluster
>>> >> >> > but
>>> >> >> > no
>>> >> >> > matching Tracks. So I don't know how you are getting to that
>>> >> >> > point.
>>> >> >> > Can you send me the output of mkvinfo on that file ? You can use
>>> >> >> > pastebin or
>>> >> >> > that same web server you used.
>>> >> >> > Thanks,
>>> >> >> > Steve
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:50 PM, julroy67 <julroy67 at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Here is the nice full output :
>>> >> >> >> http://julroy67.free.fr/DL/mkclean_full_backtrace.log
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Sending the file can be made, but they all are over 1 Gb, the
>>> >> >> >> smallest
>>> >> >> >> is 1.2 Gb and would take a long time to upload if so.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> 2010/7/16 Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org>:
>>> >> >> >> > Can you get a bigger backtrace, up to the main() if possible ?
>>> >> >> >> > Is
>>> >> >> >> > it
>>> >> >> >> > possible to get one of the files that crash (the smallest) ?
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:26 PM, julroy67 <julroy67 at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> So, better, than before. The first version, with a clean
>>> >> >> >> >> build,
>>> >> >> >> >> crashes like the arch package, same output. And now for the
>>> >> >> >> >> debug
>>> >> >> >> >> version, the real output (I have missed up something in the
>>> >> >> >> >> other
>>> >> >> >> >> version, that crashed at startup) :
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> 15:23 julroy67 at momoko-laptop ~/Apps/mkclean/mkclean-0.4.1%
>>> >> >> >> >> gdb
>>> >> >> >> >> release/gcc_linux_x64_debug/mkclean
>>> >> >> >> >> GNU gdb (GDB) 7.1
>>> >> >> >> >> Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>>> >> >> >> >> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
>>> >> >> >> >> <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
>>> >> >> >> >> This is free software: you are free to change and
>>> >> >> >> >> redistribute
>>> >> >> >> >> it.
>>> >> >> >> >> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.  Type
>>> >> >> >> >> "show
>>> >> >> >> >> copying"
>>> >> >> >> >> and "show warranty" for details.
>>> >> >> >> >> This GDB was configured as "x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu".
>>> >> >> >> >> For bug reporting instructions, please see:
>>> >> >> >> >> <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>...
>>> >> >> >> >> Reading symbols from
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> /home/julroy67/Apps/mkclean/mkclean-0.4.1/release/gcc_linux_x64_debug/mkclean...done.
>>> >> >> >> >> (gdb) run --optimize --remux Test.mkv Test.mkv.2
>>> >> >> >> >> Starting program:
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> /home/julroy67/Apps/mkclean/mkclean-0.4.1/release/gcc_linux_x64_debug/mkclean
>>> >> >> >> >> --optimize --remux Test.mkv Test.mkv.2
>>> >> >> >> >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
>>> >> >> >> >> Progress 1/3: 100%
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
>>> >> >> >> >> 0x000000000042b4af in EBML_MasterFindFirstElt (Element=0x0,
>>> >> >> >> >> Context=0x656ce0, bCreateIfNull=0, SetDefault=0) at
>>> >> >> >> >> ebmlmaster.c:46
>>> >> >> >> >> 46          for
>>> >> >> >> >> (i=EBML_MasterChildren(Element);i;i=EBML_MasterNext(i))
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> This one is the good, I think.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> 2010/7/16 Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org>:
>>> >> >> >> >> > Before starting to debug you should try to build it first
>>> >> >> >> >> > like
>>> >> >> >> >> > I
>>> >> >> >> >> > just
>>> >> >> >> >> > described you. Using the available source package
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > here: http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/mkclean/mkclean-0.4.1.tar.bz2
>>> >> >> >> >> > I don't know about archlinux and how you got that package
>>> >> >> >> >> > and
>>> >> >> >> >> > who
>>> >> >> >> >> > made
>>> >> >> >> >> > it.
>>> >> >> >> >> > So I don't know what it contains and if it's correct.
>>> >> >> >> >> > mkclean
>>> >> >> >> >> > doesn't
>>> >> >> >> >> > use
>>> >> >> >> >> > the usual autoconf/automake system found on Linux, so maybe
>>> >> >> >> >> > it
>>> >> >> >> >> > was
>>> >> >> >> >> > packaged
>>> >> >> >> >> > incorrectly.
>>> >> >> >> >> > If you manage to build it like I said and it still fails,
>>> >> >> >> >> > you
>>> >> >> >> >> > can
>>> >> >> >> >> > try
>>> >> >> >> >> > to
>>> >> >> >> >> > rebuild it with debug informations like this:
>>> >> >> >> >> > ./coremake distclean
>>> >> >> >> >> > ./coremake gcc_linux_x64_debug
>>> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> > Steve
>>> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 3:05 PM, julroy67
>>> >> >> >> >> > <julroy67 at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Mhh I don't know if I'm correctly generating the debug
>>> >> >> >> >> >> version
>>> >> >> >> >> >> of
>>> >> >> >> >> >> mkclean, could you say me step by step how to it. To be
>>> >> >> >> >> >> clear,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm
>>> >> >> >> >> >> using archlinux, and archlinux AUR package of mkclean, it
>>> >> >> >> >> >> works
>>> >> >> >> >> >> for
>>> >> >> >> >> >> most of the file, but for at least 2 of them, it crashes
>>> >> >> >> >> >> as
>>> >> >> >> >> >> this
>>> >> >> >> >> >> :
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 14:59 julroy67 at momoko-laptop ~% mkclean --optimize --remux
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Test.mkv
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Test.mkv.2
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Progress 1/3: 100%
>>> >> >> >> >> >> zsh: segmentation fault  mkclean --optimize --remux
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Test.mkv
>>> >> >> >> >> >> Test.mkv.2
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> And it seems that the debug binary that I've generated
>>> >> >> >> >> >> crashes
>>> >> >> >> >> >> always,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> so I'm doing wrong, but still, mkclean has a error
>>> >> >> >> >> >> somewhere
>>> >> >> >> >> >> ^^'
>>> >> >> >> >> >> So
>>> >> >> >> >> >> to
>>> >> >> >> >> >> be sure to do correctly, I think, a step by step debugging
>>> >> >> >> >> >> guide
>>> >> >> >> >> >> would
>>> >> >> >> >> >> help. Sorry for the hassle.
>>> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/7/16 Steve Lhomme <slhomme at matroska.org>:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Given the nature of the crash, it looks like it should
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > always
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > crash
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > as
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > error is on the init. It may have to do with linux x64
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > rather
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > than
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > 32
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > bits.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > I'll give it a try on my side.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Or did you compile it with a 32 bits tool chain ? The
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > regular
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > bootstrap.sh
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > and subsequent "make" command are building for 32 bits.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > In
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > 0.4.2
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > that
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > should
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > be released soon I changed that and there is now a
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > "configure"
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > script.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > It
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > will build the makefiles for 64 bits architecture on 64
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > bits
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > ones...
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Meanwhile you can make sure or that by running that in
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > root
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > folder
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > of
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > the sources:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > ./coremake distclean
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > ./coremake gcc_linux_x64
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > Then you run "make -C mkclean" and it should work.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, julroy67
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > <julroy67 at gmail.com>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello,
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm using mkclean to clean up my mkv files that are for
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> most
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> not
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> valid as mkvalidate says, but on certain files, mkclean
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> crashes.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I've
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> managed to get the backtrace from gdb. But I'm not sure
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> where
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> have
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> to report the issue.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> For the backtrace here's it :
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 14:30 julroy67 at momoko-laptop
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ~/Apps/mkclean/src/mkclean-0.4.1%
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> gdb
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> release/gcc_linux_x64/mkclean
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> GNU gdb (GDB) 7.1
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Copyright (C) 2010 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> This is free software: you are free to change and
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> redistribute
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> it.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>  Type
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> "show
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> copying"
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> and "show warranty" for details.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> This GDB was configured as "x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu".
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> For bug reporting instructions, please see:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>...
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Reading symbols from
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> /home/julroy67/Apps/mkclean/src/mkclean-0.4.1/release/gcc_linux_x64/mkclean...done.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (gdb) run --optimize --remux Test.mkv Test.mkv.2
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Starting program:
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> /home/julroy67/Apps/mkclean/src/mkclean-0.4.1/release/gcc_linux_x64/mkclean
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --optimize --remux Test.mkv Test.mkv.2
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 0x000000000040180e in ProjectSettings
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> (p=0x7fffffffdc10) at
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> mkclean_stdafx.c:99
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> 99
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>  Node_SetData((node*)p,NODECONTEXT_PROJECT_NAME,TYPE_STRING,PROJECT_NAME);
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> or see here :
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://julroy67.free.fr/DL/mkclean_crash_backtrace.log
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> So anyone can say what I've to do ?
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks.
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