[Matroska-users] Matrroska not worth it

Ivan Kowalenko ivan.kowalenko at gmail.com
Wed Jan 2 22:44:18 CET 2008

It IS the  fault of user encoding (No MKV file should lack an EBML header), which means nothing for Matroska on the whole, because the same thing can happen with any media. I've seen screwed up AVI, MP4, Mov, Real and ASF/WMV. It happens all the time.

And as far as the user lacking the software, it's because developers are slow to adopt Matroska. If you look at VlC and MPlayer, which feature Matroska support "out of the box," they have no issues with any files. As far as Microsoft's quality of support, that's a vendor lock-in, because you'll never see WMVs used by anyone except Microsoft and their partners. Hell, you can barely play a WMV on a non-Microsoft platform. If you do things right (like use a robust media player, like VLC) then no issues come up.

Plus, you can't write off a whole container because of one bad experience. I've dealt with tons of MKVs and I use it for my personal media, and I've never had a problem.

-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick Simmons <borazon at pppoe.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 1:23 PM
To: matroska-users at lists.matroska.org
Subject: [Matroska-users] Matrroska not worth it

I recently (two days ago) decided to try downloading an .MKV file, just 
to see if it was as good as I've read on the 'net.

Now, after much web searching, forum searching, downloads, program 
crashes and so on, I've decided that the format
isn't worth it.

My needs are simple: high quality audio and video playback. Shouldn't be 
too hard with today's technology, right?
Apparently not with an .MKV file.

(VERY brief summary of my own difficulties)
Tried CCCP pack; couldn't play the file (Possible error with corrupt 
file, missing filters, hardware conflict, etc., etc.)
Downloaded your diagnostic tool and ran it against the file. It reported 
no EBML header.
Downloaded and installed the VideoLAN VLC player. Surprise! It started 
to play the file! Well, for a few seconds
before it got choppy, then crashed with a Microsoft C+ runtime library 
error. Glad to see that the BETA software at
least got further than the (supposedly) stable CCCP pack...

I'll be going back to the site to flag this file as corrupt and 
recommend others not use this format (unless they have a lot
of time to kill).

Maybe your container is technologically superior to Microsoft's, but at 
least I can play theirs without having to learn about
codecs, filters, encoding, libraries, etc. Most people just want to 
watch the content, not struggle with it. And saying it's either
a fault of the author's encoding, or a fault of the user for not having 
the correct software installed won't help your format's
cause any.

Remember, users aren't programmers.

And, before you dismiss this as just a rant, I've programmed business 
applications for over 10 years, and have administered
both servers (Windows, Unix, OS/400) and networks for over 20 years. I'm 
no stranger to software installation and

If you read this far, thank you for your time.
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