AW: [Matroska-users] Matroska Menus

René Koch renekoch at
Sat Apr 1 13:55:44 CEST 2006

Hi Chris,

a complete new player - that sounds interesting.
Can you give me more information about this player (status of development,
features,...)? When will a first testing version of this player be released?

This also means that first of all the playback of Matroska menus should
(100%) work and then you plan to think about writing Menu creation (and
manipulation) tools (or someone, who's not in the Matroska team starts
programming such a tool)?


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Von: Christian HJ Wiesner [mailto:chris at] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 31. März 2006 20:25
An: Questions, help, instructions, talk about Matroska; renekoch at
Betreff: Re: [Matroska-users] Matroska Menus

Hi René,

all development power of the team is currently going into a complete new 
player, which will also have MKV menue support. For this reason, there 
is no work done on any other playback solution for the time being. 
Especially a DShow based support is pain in the ass to do, so i fear 
this won't be adressed in near future.


matroska project admin

René Koch schrieb:

> Hi,
> As I didn’t had much time the last months, I’m not really up-to-date 
> with the last status of Matroska menus and so I’ve some questions and 
> also a suggestion for the DVDMenuXtractor.
> So, what’s the actual status of the Matroska menus and what’s planned 
> for the future?
> All I know is:
> - It’s possible to demux menus with DVDMenuXtractor (this doesn’t work 
> with some of my DVDs, but that’s not so important now) and mux it into 
> MKV with mkvmerge (gui).
> - Playback should be possible with VLC, but there are some problems if 
> the buttons for navigation are small. Correct?
> - There’s no dshow based playback solution yet.
> What I want to know is:
> - Is someone working on a direct show based playback solution? VLC is 
> a really good multi-platform player, but there are so many users who 
> just have a direct show based player and don’t want to install VLC.
> - How can I create an own menu for e.g. captured movies,
? Do I have 
> to create a DVD conform menu with e.g. Nero Vision and then use the 
> DVDMenuXtrator and mkvmerge gui or is there another way without this 
> loop way to DVD menus?
> There is also a very important point:
> In the EU (and some other countries) it’s forbidden to copy DVDs and 
> CDs with a copy protection (I think that’s absolutely a bullshit but 
> that’s another story..). But DVDMenuXtractor does remove a 
> CSS-protection (tested it with a copy protected DVD). So the point is, 
> that this program does technically the same as DVDDecrypter – it 
> removes a copy protection and so this program is illegal.
> I think that libdvdcss.dll does this ‘feature’. So is it possible to 
> implement a copy protection check (I think CSS-check should be enough 
> for DVDs) and stop with an error message if the DVD is copy protected 
> (release a legal version for countries in the EU,
> As this is the only program I know for preparing DVD menus to mux them 
> into MKV (correct me if I’m wrong and there are other programs) it’s 
> in my opinion a step back for Matroska menus when this software is 
> illegal in many countries.
> Regards,
> scrat

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