[matroska-general] Re: Matroska in Adobe products / make Matroska a legal entity

Christian HJ Wiesner chris at matroska.org
Fri Feb 28 12:46:35 CET 2003

Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:
> My next thing to look at will be the protection of the matroska brand 
> name and logos, to avoid any big company can simply steal our work and 
> market it ( they had to rewrite the code, thats all ... its problematic 
> to save the specs, as we dont have any things in there that could be 
> patented, so anybody can 'ab'use them for his purposes ).
> In fact i am digging into this further right now ....
> Christian

This is what i found :


The application must be filed in the name of the owner of the mark. The 
owner of the mark is the person or entity who controls the nature and 
quality of the goods identified by the mark and/or the services rendered 
in connection with the mark. The owner may be an individual, 
corporation, partnership, or other type of legal entity.
Do I have to be a U.S. citizen to apply?
No. However, if you do not reside in the United States, you must appoint 
a "domestic representative" as part of the application process (see 

Good. That means, we had to have a 'domestic representative' to be able 
to register the matroska trademark in the States. Dan ? Paul ? Jon ? John ?

Currently, the filing fee for a trademark application is $325 per class 
of goods/services. However, effective January 1, 2003, that fee will be 
increased to *$335.00* per class of goods/services. Additionally, the 
fee for amending an existing application to add an additional class or 
classes of goods/services will be $335.00 per class, for classes added 
on or after January 1, 2003. For a listing of classes, see International 
Schedule of Classes of Goods and Services. Fee increases, when 
necessary, usually take effect on October 1 of any given year. Please 
call 1-800-PT0-9199 for up-to-date fee information.[/quote]

325,- US$ ! And thats only the US .. i wonder what the EU will charge ...

And here is Germany :


[quote]Welche Gebühren sind zu entrichten?
Die Gebühren setzen sich aus der Anmeldegebühr und ggf. den 
Klassengebühren für die benannten Waren- oder Dienstleistungsklassen 
zusammen. Die Anmeldegebühr beinhaltet die Gebühr für drei Waren- oder 
Dienstleistungsklassen. Sie beträgt *EUR 300*. Ab der vierten benannten 
Klasse ist für jede weitere Waren- oder Dienstleistungsklasse eine 
Gebühr von EUR 100 zu zahlen. Die Anmelde- und Klassengebühren sind mit 
der Antragstellung zu entrichten. Näheres entnehmen Sie bitte dem 

300,- € !! This is for 10 years, and can be prolongued then ....

If we have similar fees for


we have a serious financing problem guys :( ....

Any comments ?



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