[Matroska-devel] mkv of a certain size fails validation --addendum1

Jim Shupert, Jr. jshupert at theppsgroup.com
Wed Aug 14 22:53:17 CEST 2013


I have done more testing in attempt to understand what is happening.

I did 3 'long' files { ffv1 vid , pcm audio in mkv }

1- 38 GB  1hr 23 min failed validation

2- 35 GB  1h 16 min failed validation

3- 33 GB 1hr 18 min PASSED
-- so dragons must lie just past 33 GB


error examples - these are the returns from mkvaldator

1 had a lot of this

<snip>
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 524524 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 525525 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 526526 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 527527 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 528528 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 529529 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 530530 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 531531 ms not found
</snip>
so what might that be ?? timecode rounding?

and # 2 had the same sort
<snip>
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 209209 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 210210 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 211211 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 212212 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 213213 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 214214 ms not found

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 215215 ms not found

lots of this

</snip>

a Q-
A primary concern is this -about these errors.
Are these files Bad?  should they be considered no-good?

I am wondering is this is a TC rounding error.
but what about err like

^MERR080: Unknown element [43][B6] at 10095057419 size 13584
^MERR080: Unknown element [46][16] at 10095071008 size 68
^MERR080: Unknown element [A7] at 10095071079 size 1300906


thanks

jim

============================================================
previously stated  8.13.2013

Dear friends,


I am making ffv1 video & pcm audio file.mkv by transcoding 8bit
unCompressed avi into the mkv.
I also merge some meta data in the file.

If the file is larger : 1hr 40 min the mkvalidator finds errors.

Q1- are these errors 'a problem'
Q2- is there any work around available to me.
  currently I simply chop the file down to ~ 1hr - then all is well.
I am using ubuntu 12.04 64

here are some details of what i am seeing
--------------------------------------------------------------------
mkvalidator v0.3.4, Copyright

ubuntu 12.04 64

ffmbc is
FFmbc version 0.7-rc7
Copyright (c) 2008-2012 Baptiste Coudurier and the FFmpeg developers



scenesavers at gagarin:~$ mkvalidator --help
mkvalidator v0.3.4, Copyright (c) 2010 Matroska Foundation

problem:   some mkv do not validate

mkv made via
ffmbc -i $cap/$f -y -s 720x486 -vcodec ffv1 -pix_fmt yuv422p -aspect 4:3
-g 1 -acodec pcm_s24le -sample_fmt s32 /media/data/mkv_in/${f%.*}.mkv


## the making of the framemd5_process.txt
ffmpeg -y -i $mkv_in/${f%.*}.mkv -f framemd5 $attachd/${f%.*}/framemd5.txt
2> $attachd/${f%.*}/framemd5_process.txt &



mkvalidator --no-warn --quiet /$attachd/${f%.*}/${f%.*}.mkv 2>
/home/scenesavers/01_gagarin_logs/van_err_chck/${f%.*}.txt

##--mkvmerge
mkvmerge -o /media/data/mkv_unclean/${f%.*}.mkv --attachment-mime-type
text --attach-file $attachd/${f%.*}/framemd5_process.txt
--attachment-mime-type text --attach-file $attachd/${f%.*}/framemd5.txt
$mkv_in/${f%.*}.mkv


is cleaned
mkclean --remux /media/data/mkv_unclean/${f%.*}.mkv
/media/van_ex/${f%.*}/${f%.*}.mkv

files that do not validate are the bigger files
These are from ep vhs - so 2-4 hr in length
I have NO problems with file 1 hr or less. I *think the problems start
when a file ( the ffv1 mkv ) is more than 1hr 30 min

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
{{  REVISION : I now think the problem starts @ 33 GB or 1hr ~ 16 min }}

known ok        1hr 10 min 90 GB

known Fail        1hr 43 min 132 GB


------- reported err :: this is what is in the txt file of
mkvalidator --no-warn --quiet /$attachd/${f%.*}/${f%.*}.mkv 2>
/home/scenesavers/01_gagarin_logs/van_err_chck/${f%.*}.txt

a properly error free mkv will result in a txt file of 0 size.
I have offered her a few snips from a 1.1 GB txt file
<snip>
^MERR080: Unknown element [43][B6] at 10095057419 size 13584
^MERR080: Unknown element [46][16] at 10095071008 size 68
^MERR080: Unknown element [A7] at 10095071079 size 1300906
^MERR080: Unknown element [A4] at 10096371989 size 92
^MERR080: Unknown element [4B][09] at 10096372085 size 43
^MERR080: Unknown element [8D] at 10096372131 size 1519124
^MERR080: Unknown element [DE] at 10097891259 size 29
^MERR080: Unknown element [2B][CC][95] at 10097891290 size 53
<snip>

MERR080: Unknown element [FC] at 10100252809 size 0
^MERR080: Unknown element [D2] at 10100253065 size 0
^MERR080: Unknown element [C1] at 10100253577 size 0
^MERR080: Unknown element [AC] at 10100253833 size 0
^MERR080: Unknown element [A8] at 10100254089 size 0
^MERR080: Unknown element [54][6A] at 10100254345 size 0
^MERR080: Unknown element [A9] at 10100254601 size 0
<snip>

ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6207201 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6208202 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6209203 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6210204 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6211205 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6212206 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6213207 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6214208 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6215209 ms not found
ERR312: CueEntry Track #1 and timecode 6216210 ms not found
</snip>

any assistance is appreciated.

mostly- I hope to understand the matter better and , of course, I hope
there is something I can do to solve it.

Thank you

best regards

jim s



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