[Matroska-devel] [Fwd: [vlc-devel] Re: Google Video Viewer released]

Steve Lhomme steve.lhomme at free.fr
Tue Jun 28 06:47:56 CEST 2005

Other info on this...

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [vlc-devel] Re: Google Video Viewer released
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:11:23 -0700
From: Ross Finlayson <finlayson at live.com>
Reply-To: vlc-devel at videolan.org
To: vlc-devel at videolan.org
References: <200506271949.05892.i.sanchez at mirame.net>

>There is not much new functionality (in fact, they cripple VLC a bit)

FYI, here is the "configure" line that they appear to use (for some odd
reason, it's embedded as a string in the "googlevlc.exe" binary):

configure --disable-sdl --disable-gtk --enable-nls --disable-smb
--disable-theora --with-freetype-config-path=/usr/win32/bin
--with-fribidi-config-path=/usr/win32/bin --disable-livedotcom
--disable-caca --with-xml2-config-path=/usr/win32/bin --disable-dvdnav
--disable-dvdread --disable-cdda --disable-cddax --disable-vcd
--disable-vcdx --disable-goom --disable-toolame --disable-mkv
--disable-httpd --disable-screen --disable-quicktime --disable-libmpeg2
--disable-vorbis --disable-speex --disable-png --disable-x264
--disable-cmml --disable-x11 --disable-xvideo --disable-glx
--disable-freetype --disable-fribidi --disable-libxml2 --disable-alsa
--disable-waveout --disable-joystick --disable-skins2 --disable-dts
--disable-mod --disable-faad --disable-flac --disable-smb --disable-dvbpsi
--disable-libcdio --disable-libcddb --disable-ogg --disable-a52
--without-a52 --enable-optimizations --enable-wxwindows
--with-wx-config-path=/usr/win32/bin --enable-mozilla
--with-mozilla-sdk-path=/cygdrive/d/gecko-sdk.1.7.6 --disable-debug
--enable-release --disable-sout --enable-ffmpeg --disable-mad

Some comments:
- They don't include the LIVE.COM RTSP client code :-(, so apparently the
client is intended to receive streams over HTTP only.  (This is a pity,
because it will prevent their viewer from being used to play (e.g.) 3GPP
and ISMA streams.)
- They omit many third-party codecs - in particular mpeg-2, faad, ogg, 
and a52
- However, they *include* FFMPEG, which gives them MPEG-4 video.  (I'm not
sure what their audio is - perhaps MP3?)

This raises the big question: What has Google done about the (presumably
numerous) patents covered by the FFMPEG code?  Google's a US company, so
they can't ignore software patents.  Have they bought a license from
MPEG-LA (covering the MPEG-4 video patents implemented by FFMPEG)?  If so,
this is the first time I've heard of GPL MPEG codec software being legally

Can anyone tell us what the deal is here?


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