From steve.lhomme at free.fr Fri Oct 1 11:58:46 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:58:46 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: Dirac Video Codec In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <415D2A56.7000609@free.fr> Hi Tim, I'm glad that you contact our humble project for your codec. Of course I would be very happy to be able to mux Dirac in Matroska. We have already worked with another developer that makes a wavelet-based codec called Warp. But it's just in early development for the moment... The good thing is that it might use the same principle as yours (or the opposite ;) of coding many frames into one big data packet, and generate a few frames from that packet. It's quite different than the usual IPB frames systems. But hopefully Matroska is already designed to support such cases. The advantages for you is that Matroska is a project based only on the container and we make our best to make that part as good as possible. For example OGG was meant to carry Vorbis and now Theora and a few other codecs. But IMO the design is not so good (the container is too much codec-related). I couldn't tell about MXF. All I know is that it's a professional class container, but maybe not good for everyday/basic use. I could go on and on telling you why I think Matroska is great, but maybe we can wait a little for that ;) We are a small motivated team, working for free and try to avoid getting into political/commercial holes. That's why we try to support every possible (and good) codec, regardless of where it comes from (MPEG, Microsoft, Real, etc). Our goals for the end of the year are : - finish the tag system (probably the most powerful one) - add a menu system, based on the one of DVDs (but others could be used too) - add WavPack support which will need a feature that is not used by any codec so far From that point Matroska will be considered as stable and full-featured. (maybe it would be nice to see if it fits your needs too, before considering the big part is done) Finally Matroska can be played and created on Windows, Linux, Mac, BeOS and even Pocket PC. All the code is open-source and cross-platform. There are a few C++ implementations, various ones in C and one (probably incomplete) in Java. Steve Tim Borer a ?crit : > Message body follows: > > Hi, > > I am the project manager for the Dirac Video Codec > (http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/dirac/ & > http://sourceforge.net/projects/dirac) > > Dirac is a pure video codec. But oviously we have aspirations > to stream it etc. To do so we will need a container format. > Possibilities are Ogg, MXF or Matroska. > > I writing to make initial contact. Would you be interested in > being able to wrap Dirac in Matroska? What would be the > advantages to us? What would we have to do to achieve this? > > Regards From nerobat2004 at yahoo.it Sat Oct 2 14:32:48 2004 From: nerobat2004 at yahoo.it (Francesco De Sanctis) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:32:48 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Matroska-general] Help ! Matroska doesn't work !!! Message-ID: <20041002123248.77203.qmail@web25103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hello ! I have a question on Matroska software installation ! After i installed matroska full 1.03, it doesn't work !!! I installed ffdshow 20020617, xvid 1.0, divx 5.03, but i can't play files mkv. When i open file mkv with bsplayer it says me: "can't open file". When i open file mkv with windows media player 9 with drag and drop, it doesn't know the file. Just virtualdubmod can open files mkv. I had try with virtualdubmod to convert a my divx in mkv without audio, all right but if i try to open these files with bsplayer and windows media player 9 it does those errors ! I had try too to open ffdshow configuration from Matroska Pack but it is wrong link; there it is signaled in: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\rundll32.exe ffdshow.ax,configure, but ffdshow is in: C:\WINDOWS\rundll32.exe ffdshow.ax,configure. This is the same for ac3Filter. I had try to uninstall and to install Matroska another time but the problem remains. I have windows98 second edition,128mb ram, directx 9 ! Can you say me what can i do ? Thank you ! Bye Francesco bat --------------------------------- Scopri Mister Yahoo! - il fantatorneo sul calcio di Yahoo! Sport' -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve.lhomme at free.fr Sat Oct 2 16:19:00 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:19:00 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] Help ! Matroska doesn't work !!! In-Reply-To: <20041002123248.77203.qmail@web25103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20041002123248.77203.qmail@web25103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <415EB8D4.2090000@free.fr> Francesco De Sanctis a ?crit : > Hello ! > I have a question on Matroska software installation ! > After i installed matroska full 1.03, it doesn't work !!! > I installed ffdshow 20020617, xvid 1.0, divx 5.03, but i can't play > files mkv. > When i open file mkv with bsplayer it says me: "can't open file". > When i open file mkv with windows media player 9 with drag and drop, it > doesn't know the file. > Just virtualdubmod can open files mkv. > I had try with virtualdubmod to convert a my divx in mkv without audio, > all right but if i try to open these files with bsplayer and windows > media player 9 it does those errors ! > I had try too to open ffdshow configuration from Matroska Pack but it is > wrong link; there it is signaled in: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\rundll32.exe > ffdshow.ax,configure, but ffdshow is in: C:\WINDOWS\rundll32.exe > ffdshow.ax,configure. > This is the same for ac3Filter. > I had try to uninstall and to install Matroska another time but the > problem remains. > I have windows98 second edition,128mb ram, directx 9 ! > Can you say me what can i do ? > Thank you ! > Bye > Francesco bat Hi Francesco, Win98 has some problems with Unicode DLLs. You might try to use Media Player Classic. I think there is a Win98 version. And use the internal splitter. If you get newly made Matroska files with mkvmerge, you might not be able to seek in the files... (you can still remux them with Avi-Mux GUI or an old version of mkvmerge) Otherwise you can use VideoLan, as long as your files don't use the RealVideo codec. From steve.lhomme at free.fr Sun Oct 3 10:45:06 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 10:45:06 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] [Fwd: Re: Matroska support] Message-ID: <415FBC12.3090600@free.fr> "libextractor is a library used to extract meta-data from files of arbitrary type. It is designed to use helper-libraries to perform the actual extraction, and to be trivially extendable by linking against external extractors for additional file types. The goal is to provide developers of file-sharing networks or WWW-indexing bots with a universal library to obtain simple keywords to match against queries. libextractor contains a shell-command "extract" that, similar to the well-known "file" command, can extract meta-data from a file an print the results to stdout. " Apparently they want to achieve it without writing the code themselves. Maybe we should do that too ! -------- Message original -------- Sujet: Re: Matroska support Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 03:28:37 -0500 De: Christian Grothoff Pour: Steve Lhomme Copie: libextractor at cs.purdue.edu R?f?rences: <415FB197.4000208 at free.fr> On Sunday 03 October 2004 03:00, Steve Lhomme wrote: > Hi, > > I just discovered your library that seems promising. > > But it doesn't support Matroska. Is there any plan to support it ? We'll add a plugin if someone provides a good one, if that's the question. I've never heard of Matroska before, and the format looks complicated. Writing plugins for LE is quite simple (if you know C), so if you want to write one, go for it. Christian -- robUx4 on blog From steve.lhomme at free.fr Tue Oct 5 14:10:11 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:10:11 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] For all savvy encoders Message-ID: <41628F23.6050605@free.fr> Hi, For the multiangle feature we'll need a few restrictions on the streams. The most important one is that we should only switch angles on a keyframe. I think that's how it's done on DVDs... If you only rip your DVDs to the original MPEG2 in MKV (still waiting for support in mtx ;) there won't be any pb. But if you encode that MPEG2 video stream to something else, you can't enforce the main video to have a keyframe at each change/gap in other angles... So my question is : is there any way to force keyframes at known locations when encoding in the few popular codecs (DivX, XviD, RV9) ? If not we probably won't create such an application. So the other option would be to encode all parts of a movie separately and then join the final data. Do you think it's possible for these same codecs ? Just keeping the codec informations of the first encoded file... -- robUx4 on blog From steve.lhomme at free.fr Tue Oct 5 14:40:06 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:40:06 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] [Fwd: Re: a few nut suggestions [seeking algorithm]] Message-ID: <41629626.2010703@free.fr> History repeating :) They are just 2 years off ;) -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: D Richard Felker III Subject: Re: a few nut suggestions [seeking algorithm] Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 20:58:57 -0400 Size: 6417 URL: From the_Arioch at nm.ru Tue Oct 5 16:08:18 2004 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:08:18 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Fwd: Re: a few nut suggestions [seekingalgorithm]] References: <41629626.2010703@free.fr> Message-ID: The stars so gaily glistened... (Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:40:06 +0200 @569) ...while the fading voice of Steve whispered through the darkness: SL> History repeating :) SL> They are just 2 years off ;) Where it was forwarded from ? Who are they ? -- ICQ - xmpp://arioch at jabber.ru xmpp://93438391 at icq.jabber.ru http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Ariochnmru From steve.lhomme at free.fr Tue Oct 5 17:04:53 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:04:53 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Fwd: Re: a few nut suggestions [seekingalgorithm]] In-Reply-To: References: <41629626.2010703@free.fr> Message-ID: <4162B815.2070807@free.fr> It was forwarded from the MPlayer-dev. They are creating a container called nut (now with an unnamed fork). And they are just taking the same routes and having the same discussions we had 2 years ago. What amazes me is that they never even dare looking at our solutions to their problems. In short that's called "reinventing the wheel". But as they think they are the elite, they probably think that Matroska doesn't have any solution at all... Arioch /BDV/ a ?crit : > The stars so gaily glistened... (Tue, 05 Oct 2004 14:40:06 +0200 @569) > ...while the fading voice of Steve whispered through the darkness: > > SL> History repeating :) > SL> They are just 2 years off ;) > > Where it was forwarded from ? > Who are they ? From grahamsimms22 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 5 22:11:32 2004 From: grahamsimms22 at hotmail.com (graham simms) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:11:32 +0000 Subject: [Matroska-general] mkv files Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From the_Arioch at nm.ru Thu Oct 7 14:42:03 2004 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:42:03 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: mkv files References: Message-ID: The stars so gaily glistened... (Tue, 05 Oct 2004 20:11:32 +0000 @883) ...while the fading voice of graham whispered through the darkness: g>It is unclear what I download from your site to play your mkv files Could You help as to help You ? What is You operating system and video player ? If You're using MS Windows and DirectX-based player, then i guess You need matoska directshow filters. So then read below: For example separate codecs for Matroska can be taken from http://guliverkli.sf.net/ They are small and You have full control over changes in You Windows. One more choice is to download Matroska Codecs pack, or K-Lite Codec Pack. http://www.free-codecs.com/ They are huge and contain a lot of codecs. If all the codecs were selected well by pack's makers, You would make You system play a lot of formats right away, with a single installer. DrawBack: if some codecs will be choosen awry, then some formats may become affected, though (????? were problems with xvid in Matroska's pack). Personalyl i usually install some of K-Lite packs and then maybe install or de-install some certain codecs by hands. -- ICQ - xmpp://arioch at jabber.ru xmpp://93438391 at icq.jabber.ru http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Ariochnmru From the_Arioch at nm.ru Thu Oct 7 14:42:58 2004 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 16:42:58 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Fwd: Re: a few nutsuggestions [seekingalgorithm]] References: <41629626.2010703@free.fr> <4162B815.2070807@free.fr> Message-ID: The stars so gaily glistened... (Tue, 05 Oct 2004 17:04:53 +0200 @670) ...while the fading voice of Steve whispered through the darkness: SL> their problems. In short that's called "reinventing the wheel". I guess it is called 'not invented here' Decease very hard to cure, i know it by myself. -- ICQ - xmpp://arioch at jabber.ru xmpp://93438391 at icq.jabber.ru http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Ariochnmru From moritz at bunkus.org Thu Oct 7 23:33:43 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 23:33:43 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] mkvtoolnix 0.9.6 released Message-ID: <20041007213343.GA7526@bunkus.org> Hey, weeeeeee! It's been quite some time since the last release. Probably longer than since any other release. But here we go. This funky release features tons of bug features and a couple of new features and a complete rewrite of the chapter handling (which you won't notice, but it a really big change, so there might still be bugs. But I doubt it). You should read the ChangeLog below -- I really don't want to repeat everything here ;) Here are the usual URLs to... ...the home page: https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/ ...the source code: https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/sources/mkvtoolnix-0.9.6.tar.bz2 ...the Windows binaries: https://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/mkvtoolnix-0.9.6.rar The packages for SuSE Linux 9.0 and 9.1 as well as those for RedHat 9 / FedoraCore 1 and 2 are still being built and will be available from my home page shortly. Here's the ChangeLog since the previous release, 0.9.5: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2004-10-07 Moritz Bunkus * Released v0.9.6. * mkvextract: bug fix: The track extraction was creating the output file twice if the Matroska file contained a copy of the track headers. This resulted in the first extracted file being overwritten at the end of extraction. * mmg: bug fix: If the file title is read from an input file, not modified by the user and that input file is removed again then the file title will be unset. 2004-10-05 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: enhancement: Converted the raw FLAC reader to use another interface to the FLAC libraries. This results in a speedup of up to 50%. Thanks to Josh Coalson for telling me about its existence. 2004-10-04 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: new feature: Added two warnings. One about invalid track IDs that were used on the command line but that don't correspond to an available track in a file and one if no track will be copied from a source file. Both warnings hint at bad command line arguments. 2004-10-03 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: Only write the segment duration as a 64bit float if there is no video track present. This way users won't have to update their DirectShow filter/apps for most files. Only audio-only files need this precision anyway. * mkvmerge: Changed the Ogg/OGM reader to use the stream number and not its serial number as the track ID (meaning the track IDs will be 0, 1, 2... etc. instead of the random numbers oggenc uses as the serial numbers). 2004-09-30 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: new feature: The CUE sheet parser now accepts INDEX lines with indices from 00 up to 99 and implements the Red Book specification for audio CDs that way. Patch by Vegard Pettersen . 2004-09-28 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge, mkvextract: bug fix: ASS was handled like SSA which is not correct in each case, especially when extracting it. * mkvextract: bug fix: The WAV writer was not endian safe. 2004-09-27 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: bug fix: The charset was not set correctly on Solaris. * mkvmerge: bug fix: mkvmerge crashed when reading Matroska files that contain an empty tag list. 2004-09-26 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: bug fix: Some Matroska files that e.g. have had their timecodes offset with the Matroska Stream Editor or other means may contain timecodes that caused mkvmerge to print a warning about "timecode < last_timecode". A new fix implements a workaround and a warning message with a proper explanation for this case. 2004-09-24 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: bug fix: Older Matroska files containing chapters caused mkvmerge to abort muxing. 2004-09-21 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: bug fix: mkvmerge was only copying the last tag of a list of tags applying to a track from a Matroska file. 2004-09-17 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: bug fix: mkvmerge will show a nice warning if the entries in a SRT have non-continuous timestamps. It'll also sort the entries by their start timestamp instead of throwing the generic "timecode < previous timecode" warning. * mmg: bug fix: The 'Matroska file analysis' window that occurs when reading chapters from a Matroska file did not disappear if it was minimized when the process finished. 2004-09-16 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: new feature: Added a new parameter --aspect-ratio-factor. * mkvinfo: bug fix: Strings from chapters and tags were shown in UTF-8 instead of the local charset. This bug was introduced around 2004-08-28. * mkvmerge: bug fix: Not all chapter elements were copied correctly from a source Matroska file. 2004-09-07 Moritz Bunkus * mkvextract: Sped up the extraction of attachments, chapters, cuesheets and tags by using the seek head information and not parsing the full file each time. 2004-09-02 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: bug fix: The Matroska reader was not handling very big cluster timecodes correctly. Those can occur when the timecode scale factor is very small. * mkvmerge: bug fix: Empty clusters in Matroska files no longer make mkvmerge think that file has been read completely. 2004-08-31 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: new feature: Added support for MP2 (and maybe MP3) audio in MP4 containers. 2004-08-29 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: new feature: The chapter and tag parsers accept XML element attributes instead of sub-elements for those sub-elements that only contain data. Example for a "simple tag": * mkvmerge: bug fix: The automatic MIME type detection based on the file name extension was using the file name extension as the MIME type. 2004-08-28 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge, mkvinfo: new feature: Added the four new PixelCrop elements. * mkvmerge, mkvextract, mkvinfo: new feature: Added 'TargetTypeValue' as a supported tagging element. * mkvmerge, mkvextract, mkvinfo: Complete rewrite of the chapter and tag parsing and output functions. Additions will be much easier now. * mkvmerge, mkvextract, mkvinfo: feature removed: Dropped support for the very old and deprecated tagging system. No one used it anyway. 2004-08-24 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: new feature: Allow the use of two-letter ISO639-1 country codes in for the '--language' parameter. Those will be converted to the corresponding ISO639-2 language code automatically. 2004-08-22 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge, mkvinfo, mkvextract: new feature: Added support for the 'TargetType' tag element (which I meant to add before the 0.9.5 release...). * mkvmerge: bug fix: The MP3 handling was broken on weird and rare occasions when reading MP3 from a Matroska file. * mkvmerge: bug fix: Removed a bogus warning about an attachment's MIME type having been given more than once. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Have fun :) Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds From ka_re at gmx.de Sun Oct 10 15:17:51 2004 From: ka_re at gmx.de (ka_re) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:17:51 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] Matroska+mkv-Dateien Message-ID: <20041010132439.A3612440065@p15097576.pureserver.info> Hallo Ich bin durch Zufall ?ber Eure Seite gestolpert und habe auch schon ein *.mkv-file Bemerkenswert die Videoqualit?t. 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There are various guides on how to do that in the internet, check the Forum on www.suprnova.org Christian matroska project admin From geminis1 at quick-shop.com Mon Oct 11 23:50:54 2004 From: geminis1 at quick-shop.com (Geminis1) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:50:54 -0600 Subject: [Matroska-general] Hi!! i just need to find out something about mka Message-ID: <001f01c4afdc$642c3060$2b0a110a@Service2> Hi...just like 2 weeks ago I convert an avi file to mkv..and the result was great..im very happy with the result..so I delete the avi source file and only keep the mkv file.. The problem is that I have a dvd player that supports avi files but cant play the mkv files, so my question is: is there any way I can convert the audio of the matroska file to mp3 again, so I can see it in my dvd player? Thanks.I'll be waiting for your help... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moritz at bunkus.org Tue Oct 12 07:25:39 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 07:25:39 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] Hi!! i just need to find out something about mka In-Reply-To: <001f01c4afdc$642c3060$2b0a110a@Service2> References: <001f01c4afdc$642c3060$2b0a110a@Service2> Message-ID: <20041012052538.GA26832@bunkus.org> Hi, On Mon, Oct 11, 2004 at 03:50:54PM -0600, Geminis1 wrote: > The problem is that I have a dvd player that supports avi files but cant > play the mkv files, so my question is: is there any way I can convert > the audio of the matroska file to mp3 again, so I can see it in my dvd > player? You can use mkvextract which is part of the mkvtoolnix package available at http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/ Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds From chris at matroska.org Tue Oct 12 08:04:00 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 08:04:00 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] Hi!! i just need to find out something about mka In-Reply-To: <001f01c4afdc$642c3060$2b0a110a@Service2> References: <001f01c4afdc$642c3060$2b0a110a@Service2> Message-ID: <416B73D0.7020300@matroska.org> Avi-mux GUI from http://alexnoe.matroska.org should be able to convert your MKV back into AVI, when you didnt alter the streams but just muxed from AVI to MKV. Christian Geminis1 wrote: > Hi?..just like 2 weeks ago I convert an avi file to mkv?.and the > result was great..im very happy with the result?.so I delete the avi > source file and only keep the mkv file?. > > The problem is that I have a dvd player that supports avi files but > cant play the mkv files, so my question is: is there any way I can > convert the audio of the matroska file to mp3 again, so I can see it > in my dvd player? Thanks?I?ll be waiting for your help?.. > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Matroska-general mailing list >Matroska-general at lists.matroska.org >http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-general > > From coquet.j at free.fr Sun Oct 17 23:20:00 2004 From: coquet.j at free.fr (coquet.joel) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:20:00 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] How read au MKV file Message-ID: <000501c4b48f$15b0ae40$dde9fd52@audrey> J'ai t?l?charg? tous les codec que j'ai trouv? pour lire un fichier MKV avec zoomplayer et le elcteur windows m?dia vers 8. Je r?ussis ? avoir le son mais pas l'image. Pouvez-vous m'aider ? r?soudre ce probl?me. I downloaded all the codec i finded to read a MKV file with zoomplayer and WMP 8. I can heard but I can't see the file. Please, can you help me to find the answer ? thank you From the_Arioch at nm.ru Tue Oct 19 11:09:03 2004 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:09:03 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: How read au MKV file References: <000501c4b48f$15b0ae40$dde9fd52@audrey> Message-ID: The stars so gaily glistened... (Sun, 17 Oct 2004 23:20:00 +0200 @930) ...while the fading voice of coquet.joel whispered through the darkness: cj> I downloaded all the codec i finded to read a MKV file with zoomplayer cj> and WMP 8. cj> I can heard but I can't see the file. Media file is an evelope, container (AVI or OGM, or Quicktime, or WMV or Matroska) that keeps within an 1) video track (MPeg4 as divx, xvid, MS Mpeg; Theora, windows Video, a lot more) 2) 1 or more audio tracks (Mp3, Ogg, VQF, ADPCM, AC3, a lot more) 3) 1 or more subtitles track 4) tags, like those within JPEG or MP3 5) information for seeking (f.f. & rew) and synchronizing audio to video. Since You can here sound we can guess that 1) Matroska envelope was opened fine. 2) audio track(s) were taken out, mathced to codec and played 3) video track was taken out, but was not matched to codec and could not be played. That clearly states what You need to do: 1) determine video codec used with Your clip 2) find it, download it and install it. To help You with 1, i can suggets You to find 1) Light Alloy player - it has some kind of codecs table and might give You are link. 2) use special tool, like gSpot or AVIcodec There is trouble, gSpot supports AVI and OGM, but not MKV LightAlloy and AVI codec maybe has poor support for MKV, worse than for other kinds of envelopes So, ...3) You can find MatroskaProp applet (Windows shell extension), install it and look for needed codec in MKV file's properties. But then, having name, You would need to find it Yourself, via Google or www.free-codecs.org or whatever. -- ICQ - xmpp://arioch at jabber.ru xmpp://93438391 at icq.jabber.ru http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Ariochnmru From steve.lhomme at free.fr Fri Oct 22 13:06:48 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:06:48 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] For those who think you can trust Google Message-ID: <4178E9C8.4030003@free.fr> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/21/google_desktop_security_vuln/ "Google couldn't explain why it didn't have a working email or phone contact for security alerts" Conclusion : "It's good to know Google takes security as seriously as it takes privacy." -- robUx4 on blog From tnr at ntlworld.com Sun Oct 24 13:34:40 2004 From: tnr at ntlworld.com (tnr at ntlworld.com) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 12:34:40 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] AVI convertion please Message-ID: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> Would you be kind enought to have a .mkv to .avi format convertor please??? IM not intrested in .mkv at all, I have no use for YET ANOTHER container tyope when we already have one, its called AVI and is accepted BY ALL PLAYERS unlike your veryown homebrew. What IM annoyed about is I spent nearly a month downloading a large file which was labled up as an avi file which turned out to be your .mkv format type and looking at your site you do not offer anything to help me decode the file into a file type thats compatible with my editors, IM not intrested in having to download a special editor or filter but a convertor to change the file into something more useful than the .mkv file type. BTW, if everyone would just simply understand about video and audio, they would already see that theirs a very tough job on the market to beat, its called .ogm, sits in an .avi container and is read BY ALL players, so yourselves and others who attempt to sway THE standard, will have a hard time. Sorry your codec does nothing for me, only it has turned me away from the idea because I have a filetype with no way of playing the fucking think, yes IM happy. NOT. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.781 / Virus Database: 527 - Release Date: 21/10/2004 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moritz at bunkus.org Mon Oct 25 09:30:57 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:30:57 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] AVI convertion please In-Reply-To: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> References: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> Message-ID: <20041025073057.GA31213@bunkus.org> Hey, On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:34:40PM +0100, tnr at ntlworld.com wrote: > Would you be kind enought to have a .mkv to .avi format convertor > please??? No. AVI cannot do all that Matroska can do (Vorbis, variable FPS video, subtitles are NOT supported by hardware players, just to name a few). > IM not intrested in .mkv at all, Then don't use it. > What IM annoyed about is I spent nearly a month downloading a large > file which was labled up as an avi file which turned out to be your > .mkv format type and looking at your site you do not offer anything to > help me decode the file into a file type thats compatible with my > editors, Wohooo. And now you're blaming us that you've donwloaded some illegal stuff which was mislabeled and we don't offer the one-click-solution to your agony? Go get a life, dude. > BTW, if everyone would just simply understand about video and audio, > they would already see that theirs a very tough job on the market to > beat, its called .ogm, sits in an .avi container and is read BY ALL > players, so yourselves and others who attempt to sway THE standard, > will have a hard time. LOL! Two of the major software developpers who've written tools for OGM are Matroska team members, and we perfectly know what OGM can and cannot do. For instance you cannot put OGM into AVI. Or do you mean Vorbis? No? Well, even if you would, you can't put Vorbis into AVI and have that file working properly either. At the moment all hardware players that support Ogg (yes Ogg, not OGM) support audio-only Ogg/Vorbis files, and not audio/video OGM files. > Sorry your codec does nothing for me, only it has turned me away from > the idea because I have a filetype with no way of playing the fucking > think, yes IM happy. NOT. Matroska is a _container_, not a _codec_. If it's not the thing for you then don't use it, and don't download it. (You know, getting onto a mailing list and starting a rant is certainly not the way to get help. Treat others how you want to be treated.) Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds From steve.lhomme at free.fr Mon Oct 25 09:36:35 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:36:35 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] AVI convertion please In-Reply-To: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> References: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> Message-ID: <417CAD03.2010007@free.fr> tnr at ntlworld.com a ?crit : > > Would you be kind enought to have a .mkv to .avi format convertor > please??? IM not intrested in .mkv at all, I have no use for YET ANOTHER > container tyope when we already have one, its called AVI and is accepted > BY ALL PLAYERS unlike your veryown homebrew. > > What IM annoyed about is I spent nearly a month downloading a large file > which was labled up as an avi file which turned out to be your .mkv > format type and looking at your site you do not offer anything to help > me decode the file into a file type thats compatible with my editors, IM > not intrested in having to download a special editor or filter but a > convertor to change the file into something more useful than the .mkv > file type. > > BTW, if everyone would just simply understand about video and audio, > they would already see that theirs a very tough job on the market to > beat, its called .ogm, sits in an .avi container and is read BY ALL > players, so yourselves and others who attempt to sway THE standard, will > have a hard time. > > Sorry your codec does nothing for me, only it has turned me away from > the idea because I have a filetype with no way of playing the fucking > think, yes IM happy. NOT. I think we should have a competition going for such posts. This one is already hard to beat ! From moritz at bunkus.org Mon Oct 25 10:39:14 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 10:39:14 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] mkvtoolnix 0.9.7 is out Message-ID: <20041025083913.GN5928@bunkus.org> Here we go :) Still not at 1.0, but we're closing in. The latest release (created yesterday) is 0.9.7 and features a couple of bug fixes, some fairly major. Don't worry, the files created with 0.9.6 are fine, but there we some bugs that wouldn't allow you to create one in the first place ;) Anyway, read the ChangeLog below for details. One thing I've changed is the code for external timecodes. The problem has been for quite some time that mkvmerge wrote files that weren't 100% spec compliant. Therefore I'd like to get some feedback if the handling for external timecode files is still OK (I don't have any variable FPS files, so I can't test extensively). The usual links to... ...the homepage: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/ ...the source code: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/sources/mkvtoolnix-0.9.7.tar.bz2 ...the Windows binaries: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/mkvtoolnix-0.9.7.rar Binaries for other Linux distros are available from the home page, too. Last the ChangeLog since 0.9.6: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 2004-10-24 Moritz Bunkus * Released v0.9.7. * mkvmerge: bug fix: The handling of external timecode files was still not correct but should be OK now. 2004-10-17 Moritz Bunkus * mmg: Added an error message if the user selects 'mmg' as the 'mkvmerge executable' because that would lead to an infinite number of 'mmg's being spawned. 2004-10-16 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: bug fix: If LFE is on for DTS then the number of channels is one more than what the DTS frame header says. * mkvmerge: bug fix: Timecodes for Vorbis were wrong on rare occasions (when reading laced Vorbis from a Matroska file and changing the lacing, e.g. when splitting for the second and all following files). 2004-10-10 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge/mkvinfo/mkvextract: bug fix: The chapter and tag element tables were not always intialized correctly depending on the compiler and the optimization flags used. * mkvmerge: bug fix: The OGM reader was broken if at least one track was not to be copied from the file (happened between 0.9.5 and 0.9.6). * mmg: bug fix: After loading saved mmg settings the track input box listed the tracks always coming from the last input file and not from the one they really came from. 2004-10-09 Moritz Bunkus * mmg: enhancement: Made mmg's main window properly resizable. * mkvmerge: Rewrote the code for the external timecode files. This also fixes bug 99: The durations for the individual tracks were not correct for those tracks for which --timecodes was used. 2004-10-08 Moritz Bunkus * mmg: bug fix: Crash when saving chapters from the chapter editor. Same as the mkvinfo issue below but on all OS. * mkvinfo: bug fix: The chapter and tag element tables were not initialized on Windows resulting in a crash when one of those elements was encountered. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Have fun :) Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Mon Oct 25 11:45:53 2004 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:45:53 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Matroska-devel] AVI convertion please In-Reply-To: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> References: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> Message-ID: <417CCB51.8070600@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> tnr at ntlworld.com wrote: > Would you be kind enought to have a .mkv to .avi format convertor > please??? IM not intrested in .mkv at all, I have no use for YET > ANOTHER container tyope when we already have one, its called AVI and > is accepted BY ALL PLAYERS unlike your veryown homebrew. It's not. I don't know any player with proper AVI support. You can easily make valid AVI files with valid xvid/divx content that won't work with M$ shitware nor with any hardware mpeg4 player. > > What IM annoyed about is I spent nearly a month downloading a large > file which was labled up as an avi file which turned out to be your > .mkv format type Slap the idiot who renamed that file then. > and looking at your site you do not offer anything to help me decode > the file into a file type thats compatible with my editors, IM not > intrested in having to download a special editor or filter but a > convertor to change the file into something more useful than the .mkv > file type. That is obviously a lie. You haven't even read the first 10 lines of the main page. See below to find out why I know that. > > BTW, if everyone would just simply understand about video and audio, > they would already see that theirs a very tough job on the market to > beat, its called .ogm Learn why OGM is the largest accumulation of shit I (and most likely you as well) have ever seen (even if you've seen that heap of shit from that one triceratops s in Jurassic Parc): http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~noe/Video-Zeug/containers.pdf and why it is inferior to AVI in almost all aspects. > sits in an .avi container With that nonsense you have removed any doubt. You obviously do not have the slightest idea as to what you are talking about. > and is read BY ALL players It's not. BSPlayer for example doesn't read AVIs with switchable subtitles properly. > so yourselves and others who attempt to sway THE standard, will have a > hard time. Against AVI, maybe. Against OGM crap, certainly not. > Sorry your codec does nothing for me What do you talk about? That's even worse than the rest of your (nonsense) message. You've claimed that you've read www.matroska.org, and yet you call mkv a "codec". See above, this one proves that you haven't read the first 10 lines of the matroska main page. > , only it has turned me away from the idea because I have a filetype > with no way of playing the fucking think, yes IM happy. NOT. Learn reading. then and use those skills on www.matroska.org and packs.matroska.org. Google for mkvextract and read its manual. Alex, not member of the matroska team, but annoyed by stupid people. From the_Arioch at nm.ru Mon Oct 25 14:46:59 2004 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:46:59 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: AVI convertion please References: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> <20041025073057.GA31213@bunkus.org> Message-ID: The stars so gaily glistened... (Mon, 25 Oct 2004 09:30:57 +0200 @354) ...while the fading voice of Moritz whispered through the darkness: I'd add a few words after Moritz for TNR. MB> Matroska is a _container_, not a _codec_. TNR, which is supposed to be Your nickname, since no other one You gave us. What is harder, to read or to write ? Instead of writing all this screams, You could just read http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.matroska.general/1029 It is just 3 message before yours and it is just about some most strange points of Your speech. TRN>it has turned me away from the idea What an idea? What do You call the idea ? What are You talking about? I'm lost. TRN>because I have a filetype with no way of playing What is filetype ? Is it filename extension, which always seemed to me rather stupid idea comparing to file type attribute in IBM Os/2 or Macintosh ? But the AVI extension refers to microsoft, not to matroska team. If You cannot play AVI file, which is not AVI, maybe You'd better send your critics of AVI to askBill at microsoft.com ? MB> (You know, getting onto a mailing list and starting a rant is certainly MB> not the way to get help. Treat others how you want to be treated.) Guess, he is mistaken anarchy of bypassers, which is here, with a pre-paid PR office. I'm pretty sure, he would never talk in such way to anyone he see on the streets :-( TNR, this manual is long to read, but it's worth the time: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- ICQ - xmpp://arioch at jabber.ru xmpp://93438391 at icq.jabber.ru http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Ariochnmru From a_cole18 at hotmail.com Tue Oct 26 22:01:34 2004 From: a_cole18 at hotmail.com (oliver braflan) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 22:01:34 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] (no subject) Message-ID: salut a tous et je viens de d?couvrir votre logiciel et je me demande si ce dernier me permetrai de chapitrer mes divx pour les lire sur ma platine de salon. je vous remercie d'avance et longue vie a votre programme _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail : antivirus et antispam int?gr?s http://www.msn.fr/newhotmail/Default.asp?Ath=f From arczi-san at go2.pl Wed Oct 27 10:06:26 2004 From: arczi-san at go2.pl (Arczi) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 10:06:26 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] Problem with mkv..... Message-ID: <111132202562.20041027100626@go2.pl> Hello, I have a little problem with a few anime in mkv format. I can't put it in virtual dubmod. I have two kinds of errors, when I try to put them in virtual dubmod : 1. Ogg Stream - I doesn't have a samplerate 2. No duration found for a subtitle Is there some way, to convert that mkv files in virtual dubmod, and if its not, then what alternative program can I use. All I want to do is just convert video from this mkv, to avi file "Me me me.......me too..." Arczi mailto:arczi-san at go2.pl gg:2625275 From chris at matroska.org Thu Oct 28 20:02:40 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 20:02:40 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] AVI convertion please In-Reply-To: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> References: <000701c4b9bd$75c3cbe0$6401a8c0@mark7p1onufgbc> Message-ID: <41813440.2040109@matroska.org> tnr at ntlworld.com wrote: > Would you be kind enought to have a .mkv to .avi format convertor > please??? IM not intrested in .mkv at all, I have no use for YET > ANOTHER container tyope when we already have one, its called AVI and > is accepted BY ALL PLAYERS unlike your veryown homebrew. > > What IM annoyed about is I spent nearly a month downloading a large > file which was labled up as an avi file which turned out to be your > .mkv format type and looking at your site you do not offer anything to > help me decode the file into a file type thats compatible with my > editors, IM not intrested in having to download a special editor or > filter but a convertor to change the file into something more useful > than the .mkv file type. > > BTW, if everyone would just simply understand about video and audio, > they would already see that theirs a very tough job on the market to > beat, its called .ogm, sits in an .avi container and is read BY ALL > players, so yourselves and others who attempt to sway THE standard, > will have a hard time. > > Sorry your codec does nothing for me, only it has turned me away from > the idea because I have a filetype with no way of playing the fucking > think, yes IM happy. NOT. > The other guys were pretty nice with you. I'm not. FUCK OFF !!!! Christian matroska project administrator From chris at matroska.org Fri Oct 29 16:44:15 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 16:44:15 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-general] [Fwd: Re: [sales-e] Support Question : please add support for matroska audio/video container format, .MKV extension] Message-ID: <4182573F.3080305@matroska.org> FYI. This was the official answer from the TMPGencoder makers on my idea to add support for the MKV extension to their software. Seems the guy is french ( look at the name ). Steve, would you explian to him there IS already MKV support in TMPG by using the DShow filter, and all we need is them to add .mkv to their list of recognized video formats in the open dialogue window ? Christian -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [sales-e] Support Question : please add support for matroska audio/video container format, .MKV extension Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 11:54:45 +0900 From: Olivier GRAVES To: chris at matroska.org References: <416EF0B0.7030906 at matroska.org> Dear Sir, Thank you for your mail. We do not have any intention of including the MKV extension in our software. The reason is you are not a recognized entity, therefore the responsability in case of copyright or license infrigement cannot be clearly established making the adoption or inclusion of your format in our software risky. In case you wish our software support such format you should consider to develop a VFAPI plug-in. The responsability will bear to the VFAPI maker only and it aslo open your format to other software. Yours Faithfully, -- ************************************** Olivier GRAVES Sales & Planning Division Pegasys Inc. 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