From christian at matroska.org Mon Nov 1 08:45:19 2004 From: christian at matroska.org (ChristianHJW) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 08:45:19 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: DirectShow conversion to Gstreamer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> Larry Berlinski wrote: > Anyone know if Gstreamer has been attempted on Windoze? I was browsing gstreamer.net again to try to find any information about the Windows port. Nada, Zero. Neither in the news, nor in the FAQ or even in the downloads. It appears to me like you are trying hard to not the world know there is one. Maybe because you are afraid of bad reactions from the Linux side ? Am i getting paranoid ? Guys, to make this clear one and for all time : Our plans to use Gstreamer as the underlying multimedia framework for matroska, similar to what Quicktime is for MOV or what Video for Windows is ( was ) for AVI are getting less and less likely. robux4 and the rest of the team are working hard on the implementation of our menue system right now, and we were hoping Steve's hard work on porting Gstreamer to Windows would raise people's interest in the meantime, and some guys would start using and imporving it, or add video/audio sinks so that we could try to motivate player devs to build their apps on Gstreamer instead of Windows. If you dont communicate that there actually IS a Windows port existing, how could people know about it then, and start contributing to it ? We wanted to contribute to gstreamer with the port, hoping it would take off so that gstreamer could become a viable alternative to what we are trying to achieve. But please bare in mind, that doesnt make robux4 a gstreamer dev, caring full time about the port. He is leading his own project, and pushing it forward is hard enough. Dont expect him to give up on matroska and invest all his free time into the port. Its about time you guys start feeling responsible for the Windows port, and react accordingly. Just my 2 cents .... Best regards Christian matroska project admin http://www.matroska.org From rbultje at ronald.bitfreak.net Mon Nov 1 13:26:41 2004 From: rbultje at ronald.bitfreak.net (Ronald S. Bultje) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:26:41 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion to Gstreamer In-Reply-To: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> References: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> Message-ID: <1099312000.2754.107.camel@tux.lan> On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 08:45, ChristianHJW wrote: > It appears to me like you are trying hard to not the world know there is > one. Maybe because you are afraid of bad reactions from the Linux side ? > Am i getting paranoid ? I think you're really just a bit paranoid. We love the porting work that has been done and are hoping that you guys will continue to do so. As far as I know, Steve has CVS access and (with that) has all access to the website to add anything he wants. Several times, after pre-releases, he has contributed some patches for last-minute compile failures, which seems to imply that it's working fairly well, no? I don't think there's much more that we can do, especially given the fact that most of us are in fact not running Windows ourselves. As for the native video/audio sinks: yes, it's a pity that they don't exist yet. We tell people that when they ask us, and we're trying to motivate such people to write them. However, we can't force anything. Let's be concrete: if there's any place on the website where you would want the port to be explicitely mentioned, please let me know where and how and I will add it. There's Windows build instructions included in our releases. The only thing missing is pre-compiled binaries, which we currently only provide for Red Hat/Fedora (x86). All other OSes and platforms are handled by third parties, and links to such locations are included in our release notes. I propose that you guys host the pre-compiled Windows binaries on your website and we will link to this in our release notes, just like we do for Novell, Mandrake, Debian and so on. If there's anything else that needs conrete attention, please let us know, ok? Ronald -- Ronald S. Bultje From zaheerabbas at merali.org Mon Nov 1 12:37:55 2004 From: zaheerabbas at merali.org (Zaheer Abbas Merali) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:37:55 +0000 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion to Gstreamer In-Reply-To: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> References: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> Message-ID: <78C8DE05-2BFA-11D9-9F7C-000A95B15A74@merali.org> On 1 Nov 2004, at 07:45, ChristianHJW wrote: > Larry Berlinski wrote: >> Anyone know if Gstreamer has been attempted on Windoze? > > I was browsing gstreamer.net again to try to find any information > about the Windows port. Nada, Zero. Neither in the news, nor in the > FAQ or even in the downloads. > If someone who uses Windows can provide us information on how to install the port (maybe even with a binary installer etc.) then we can put some information up. > It appears to me like you are trying hard to not the world know there > is one. Maybe because you are afraid of bad reactions from the Linux > side ? Am i getting paranoid ? > No, the issue is most of the developers work in Linux (or other Unix). It needs someone who uses Windows for this to happen. > Guys, to make this clear one and for all time : > > Our plans to use Gstreamer as the underlying multimedia framework for > matroska, similar to what Quicktime is for MOV or what Video for > Windows is ( was ) for AVI are getting less and less likely. robux4 > and the rest of the team are working hard on the implementation of our > menue system right now, and we were hoping Steve's hard work on > porting Gstreamer to Windows would raise people's interest in the > meantime, and some guys would start using and imporving it, or add > video/audio sinks so that we could try to motivate player devs to > build their apps on Gstreamer instead of Windows. > > If you dont communicate that there actually IS a Windows port > existing, how could people know about it then, and start contributing > to it ? We wanted to contribute to gstreamer with the port, hoping it > would take off so that gstreamer could become a viable alternative to > what we are trying to achieve. But please bare in mind, that doesnt > make robux4 a gstreamer dev, caring full time about the port. He is > leading his own project, and pushing it forward is hard enough. Dont > expect him to give up on matroska and invest all his free time into > the port. Its about time you guys start feeling responsible for the > Windows port, and react accordingly. Just my 2 cents .... > We have communicated in ChangeLogs that it now runs on windows but without somneone actively providing information on how to get it running on Windows, what are we going to do? We cannot put on the website: It runs on windows but we havent a clue how. Someone will have to maintain a windows status set of pages saying how to install, what works, what plugins work, example apps/sourcecode etc. I am sure I speak for a lot of ppl here in that we do not use Windows for development purposes but would be happy if someone who did, did the role above so we can proudly say that GStreamer runs well on Windows. Take Care Zaheer Abbas Merali From uraeus at linuxrising.org Tue Nov 2 10:35:09 2004 From: uraeus at linuxrising.org (Christian Fredrik Kalager Schaller) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 10:35:09 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion to Gstreamer In-Reply-To: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> References: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> Message-ID: <1099388110.3211.42.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi Christian, Ok I added a blurb about multiplatform support on the 'features' page on the website, mentioning both our MacOSX and Windows support by name :). I hope to be working on the GStreamer website in general this week updating stuff, so if you guys have any more information, links and or text you want added in general or to some specific pages let me know and I add it. As for Windows Binaries, we have no problems hosting those on the GStreamer website. But as said be others we are mostly linux people so some of you who actually run and compile on Windows have to provide those binaries and maintain them. Let me know who wants to do so and we make sure they have CVS access so they can add it to the website (the webpages are automatically updated when the 'www' module is updated. And there is Windows build instructions in the GStreamer documentation already. And as stated by other, let me repeat, we are VERY happy about the windows port (and the macosX, solaris and all other ports) but the windows port is only an abstract concept for most of us as we just run GNU/Linux. So it is not ill will if we do not focus more on the windows port. Zaheer mentioned the Windows port when he did his talk at GUADEC and I mentioned the Windows port when I talked about GStreamer at aKademy; in fact I said it was one of GStreamers strong points in regards to KDE since GStreamer with this port was available on all the same platforms that Qt where. So please provide us with info, screenshots, roadmaps, binaries and so on we are more than willing and happy to host them. But please do not expect us to switch away from using Linux due to it :) Christian On Mon, 2004-11-01 at 08:45 +0100, ChristianHJW wrote: > Larry Berlinski wrote: > > Anyone know if Gstreamer has been attempted on Windoze? > > I was browsing gstreamer.net again to try to find any information about > the Windows port. Nada, Zero. Neither in the news, nor in the FAQ or > even in the downloads. > > It appears to me like you are trying hard to not the world know there is > one. Maybe because you are afraid of bad reactions from the Linux side ? > Am i getting paranoid ? > > Guys, to make this clear one and for all time : > > Our plans to use Gstreamer as the underlying multimedia framework for > matroska, similar to what Quicktime is for MOV or what Video for Windows > is ( was ) for AVI are getting less and less likely. robux4 and the rest > of the team are working hard on the implementation of our menue system > right now, and we were hoping Steve's hard work on porting Gstreamer to > Windows would raise people's interest in the meantime, and some guys > would start using and imporving it, or add video/audio sinks so that we > could try to motivate player devs to build their apps on Gstreamer > instead of Windows. > > If you dont communicate that there actually IS a Windows port existing, > how could people know about it then, and start contributing to it ? We > wanted to contribute to gstreamer with the port, hoping it would take > off so that gstreamer could become a viable alternative to what we are > trying to achieve. But please bare in mind, that doesnt make robux4 a > gstreamer dev, caring full time about the port. He is leading his own > project, and pushing it forward is hard enough. Dont expect him to give > up on matroska and invest all his free time into the port. Its about > time you guys start feeling responsible for the Windows port, and react > accordingly. Just my 2 cents .... > > Best regards > > Christian > matroska project admin > http://www.matroska.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Sybase ASE Linux Express Edition - download now for FREE > LinuxWorld Reader's Choice Award Winner for best database on Linux. > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5588&alloc_id=12065&op=click > _______________________________________________ > gstreamer-devel mailing list > gstreamer-devel at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/gstreamer-devel > From thomas at apestaart.org Tue Nov 2 11:13:24 2004 From: thomas at apestaart.org (Thomas Vander Stichele) Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 11:13:24 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion to Gstreamer In-Reply-To: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> References: <4185E98F.3030707@matroska.org> Message-ID: <1099315245.23134.5.camel@otto.amantes> Hi Chrstian, > It appears to me like you are trying hard to not the world know there is > one. Maybe because you are afraid of bad reactions from the Linux side ? > Am i getting paranoid ? Yes, you are paranoid. > Guys, to make this clear one and for all time : Christian, to make this clear once and for all: YOU AND YOUR TEAM are "GStreamer on Windows". You are part of the GStreamer team, and you're part of the part that makes it happen on Windows. If our site doesn't mention enough of what you want, it's YOUR fault. Poke us politely in IRC or wherever and contribute information we can host. Every piece of info on our website is contributed by people giving information about their piece of the puzzle. The Windows piece is yours and Steve's. period. Childish complaining on mailing lists isn't going to help :) Because you're complaining about yourself. I'm sorry for stating it this bluntly, but I want to make sure that this time I really do get the point across that I've tried to make to you over and over again. So, again - if you contribute the info, do the suggestions, submit the patches to the web module, whatever, then it will show up there. If you don't - it's not. Again - none of us have Windows experience and are able to produce useful information. We've plugged you in the release notes, in lots of comments, in anything PR-related about GStreamer, yet still you complain. Please realize that it is YOU who will make it happen, since YOU know about what's going on. Seriously, I can't understand how you keep asking us how the Windows port is going, it should be you who's answering, since you're the PR department of the Windows GStreamer/Matroska world. PLEASE START SUBMITTING INFO. Thomas Dave/Dina : future TV today ! - http://www.davedina.org/ <-*- thomas (dot) apestaart (dot) org -*-> Excuse me I must have mistaken you for someone who gave a damn <-*- thomas (at) apestaart (dot) org -*-> URGent, best radio on the net - 24/7 ! - http://urgent.fm/ From Cdinlancs at aol.com Tue Nov 2 13:47:21 2004 From: Cdinlancs at aol.com (Cdinlancs at aol.com) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 07:47:21 EST Subject: [Matroska-general] help Message-ID: can you please tell me how you get matroska file to go on to dvd my softwear does not see it pete -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[/SNIP] I'm a little confused. I went to www.matroska.org and found no information about converting DirectShow to Gstreamer ... indeed Gstreamer is only mentioned in passing. More is mentioned about DirectShow than Gstreamer. Have I gone to the wrong site? Larry From chris at matroska.org Wed Nov 3 18:52:34 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:52:34 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion to Gstreamer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41891AE2.3040006@matroska.org> Larry Berlinski wrote: >[Thomas Vander Stichele stated: SNIP] >LB=->YOU AND YOUR TEAM are "GStreamer on Windows". You are part of the >LB=->GStreamer team, and you're part of the part that makes it happen on >LB=->Windows. >[/SNIP] > >I'm a little confused. I went to www.matroska.org and found no information about converting DirectShow to Gstreamer ... indeed Gstreamer is only mentioned in passing. More is mentioned about DirectShow than Gstreamer. Have I gone to the wrong site? Larry > Hi Larry, dont worry, you went to the right place. The problem is, we as the matroska team would like to USE Gstreamer for our purposes, while the Gstreamer makers would like us to MAKE Gstreamer happen, at least with respect to the Windows port. The good thing is, we are still good friends and able to talk this out in a friendly and constructive matter :) ! I will discuss with Steve once he's back from the US how we could proceed here. Its maybe time for me to take on another task in the team, and maybe its my faith to become the responsible driving force behind the Windows version of Gstreamer. This is not as easy as it sounds for me, as i am not a developer myself, but only something like an advanced PC user, and even with a strong antipathy for CLI applications ..... LOL. Anyway, i was successful in the past of rallying some troops for a good thing to happen ( matroska ), maybe i can make it again and find some friendly dev from the Windows world helping out. The matroska project needs a multimedia framework to be based on if we want the project to survive. Right now we are mainly only 'surviving' because MKV creation tools are simply better than the existing MP4 tools, and AVI does have too many limitations. But, and this is a fact, with MP4 tools getting more and more powerful with respect to subtitles and stream selection, we need to progress matroska into a REAL multi-purpose container, and that requires an open-standard codec API based on a powerful framework. I hope this makes it a bit clearer why you couldnt find any information about the Windows port on our homepage yet. Lets see what the future will bring here ;) ... Best regards ChristianHJW matroska project admin http://www.matroska.org From LBerlinski at inspireworksinc.com Wed Nov 3 19:14:38 2004 From: LBerlinski at inspireworksinc.com (Larry Berlinski) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 13:14:38 -0500 Subject: [Matroska-general] RE: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion to Gstreamer Message-ID: Thanks for the clarification Christian. I wish you and your team good luck and success with the matroska project. In the meantime, I will be lurking in the gstreamer-devel list for any Windoze related tips/pointers/updates. From the_Arioch at nm.ru Thu Nov 4 09:50:19 2004 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 11:50:19 +0300 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion to Gstreamer References: <41891AE2.3040006@matroska.org> Message-ID: The stars so gaily glistened... (Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:52:34 +0100 @786) ...while the fading voice of Christian whispered through the darkness: CHW> that requires an open-standard codec CHW> API based on a powerful framework. So, Universal Codec Interface initiative is dead now ? I wonder, what are GStreamer API and UCI if to compare their technical design, was there any loose? -- ICQ - xmpp://arioch at jabber.ru xmpp://93438391 at icq.jabber.ru http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Arioch)at(nm)dot(ru WinAMP://none: WinAMP is suffocated From jcsston at jory.info Thu Nov 4 15:26:20 2004 From: jcsston at jory.info (Jory Stone) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 08:26:20 -0600 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion toGstreamer References: <41891AE2.3040006@matroska.org> Message-ID: <00e601c4c27a$6678d4d0$6b00a8c0@jcsston> GStreamer actually exists and already works on a number of platforms. :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arioch /BDV/" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 2:50 AM Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [gst-devel] Re: DirectShow conversion toGstreamer > The stars so gaily glistened... (Wed, 03 Nov 2004 18:52:34 +0100 @786) > ...while the fading voice of Christian whispered through the darkness: > > CHW> that requires an open-standard codec > CHW> API based on a powerful framework. > > So, Universal Codec Interface initiative is dead now ? > I wonder, what are GStreamer API and UCI if to compare their technical > design, was there any loose? > -- > ICQ - xmpp://arioch at jabber.ru xmpp://93438391 at icq.jabber.ru > http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Arioch)at(nm)dot(ru > WinAMP://none: WinAMP is suffocated > > _______________________________________________ > Matroska-general mailing list > Matroska-general at lists.matroska.org > http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-general > From chris at matroska.org Mon Nov 8 23:58:52 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 23:58:52 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] [Fwd: Matroska + Adobe Premiere] Message-ID: <418FFA2C.4000908@matroska.org> Anybody speaking Russian ? :O ... Haali ? -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Matroska + Adobe Premiere Datum: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:33:42 +0600 Von: ????????? Antwort an: ????????? An: chris at matroska.org ????????????, chris. ????????, ????? ???? ????? ????????? ??????, ?? ?? ????? ?? ?? ?????????? ??? ????? (? ????? ?? ??????) ????????? matroska ? Adobe premiere, ??? ?????????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ????????. ??????? ??????????. ????????? -- ? ?????????, ????????? mailto:al_ret at mail.ru From paul at msn.com Tue Nov 9 07:13:12 2004 From: paul at msn.com (Paul Bryson) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 00:13:12 -0600 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: Matroska + Adobe Premiere] References: <418FFA2C.4000908@matroska.org> Message-ID: Best guess translation: Excuse me, I would like to ask a common question. Is it possible to make Matroska and Adobe Premiere work together, or is there a place where I could read about this? Thanks, Alexander "Christian HJ Wiesner" wrote in message news:418FFA2C.4000908 at matroska.org... Anybody speaking Russian ? :O ... Haali ? -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Matroska + Adobe Premiere Datum: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 23:33:42 +0600 Von: ????????? Antwort an: ????????? An: chris at matroska.org ????????????, chris. ????????, ????? ???? ????? ????????? ??????, ?? ?? ????? ?? ?? ?????????? ??? ????? (? ????? ?? ??????) ????????? matroska ? Adobe premiere, ??? ?????????? ?????? ??? ?? ???? ????? ????????. ??????? ??????????. ????????? -- ? ?????????, ????????? mailto:al_ret at mail.ru From chris at matroska.org Tue Nov 16 15:40:18 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:40:18 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Bad configuration of the ML for 'reply-to' ? Message-ID: <419A1152.1010903@matroska.org> Hi, it seems our mailserver has changed the default behaviour for reply-to of emails going to the list, they are now sent to the original sender instead of to the list. Is this on purpose ? If so, why ? Standard for Ml's is that reply-to automatically sends the mail to the ML, not to the originator. Christian From moritz at bunkus.org Tue Nov 16 15:47:26 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:47:26 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Bad configuration of the ML for 'reply-to' ? In-Reply-To: <419A1152.1010903@matroska.org> References: <419A1152.1010903@matroska.org> Message-ID: <20041116144726.GA17956@bunkus.org> Hey, I have changed that over a year ago because it is bad. Reply-To exists for a reason, and forcing mails onto the list is not one of the reasons. For an in-depth explanation please read http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html Mosu -- ==> Ciao, Mosu (Moritz Bunkus) From moritz at bunkus.org Tue Nov 16 15:52:28 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:52:28 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Matroska-devel] adding a 'forced display' flag? In-Reply-To: <419A0939.5030201@free.fr> References: <20041108154018.GW5928@bunkus.org> <419874D7.1060505@free.fr> <4199EDE0.5010401@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <419A0939.5030201@free.fr> Message-ID: <20041116145228.GB17956@bunkus.org> Hey, > Because, as you know, I'm working on the DVD compatibility. And the > forced flag is not only used to annoy the user. True, but it may very well be abused. Like DVD has asked last week -- he wants to use it often, it seems. The "problem" is that we cannot call a player "Matroska compatible" if it allows to switch off such forced subs. Anyway, for full DVD support we definitely need it, so we should include it. But again, then we should not INSIST on the player authors making it 'un-switch-offable' (yeah I know, my English is bad today). > So the question is not why support it, but why *not* support it ? Abuse, but I'm ok with it if we "allow" player authors to let their users turn them off. Maybe mit a warning about "not being able to fully enjoy the greatness of this movie" or sth like that. > (lazyness and lack of support are IMO not arguments, just problems) True. Mosu -- ==> Ciao, Mosu (Moritz Bunkus) From moritz at bunkus.org Tue Nov 16 15:53:46 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:53:46 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Matroska-devel] adding a 'forced display' flag? In-Reply-To: <419A1363.6060300@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <20041108154018.GW5928@bunkus.org> <419874D7.1060505@free.fr> <4199EDE0.5010401@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <419A0939.5030201@free.fr> <419A1363.6060300@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: <20041116145346.GC17956@bunkus.org> Hey, > If you want something like subs that are on by default (e.g. using the > default flag), No, that's NOT what the default flag is for. It does NOT tell the player to turn on the subs by default! It only tells it that IF the user wants subs that this track should be used by default unless the user says otherwise. Mosu -- ==> Ciao, Mosu (Moritz Bunkus) From moritz at bunkus.org Tue Nov 16 15:56:02 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 15:56:02 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Matroska-devel] adding a 'forced display' flag? In-Reply-To: <20041116145228.GB17956@bunkus.org> References: <20041108154018.GW5928@bunkus.org> <419874D7.1060505@free.fr> <4199EDE0.5010401@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <419A0939.5030201@free.fr> <20041116145228.GB17956@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <20041116145602.GA18327@bunkus.org> Hey, stupid me, wrong list twice :) Mosu -- ==> Ciao, Mosu (Moritz Bunkus) From chris at matroska.org Tue Nov 16 17:15:35 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 17:15:35 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Bad configuration of the ML for 'reply-to' ? In-Reply-To: <20041116144726.GA17956@bunkus.org> References: <419A1152.1010903@matroska.org> <20041116144726.GA17956@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <419A27A7.1040006@matroska.org> Moritz Bunkus schrieb: >Hey, > >I have changed that over a year ago because it is bad. Reply-To exists >for a reason, and forcing mails onto the list is not one of the >reasons. For an in-depth explanation please read >http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html > >Mosu > > Whatever this link is telling me ( i didnt read it ), i hate this behaviour and i am 100% sure this is not like this for a complete year already. And, as you may have noticed, other team members are also sending email to list members instead of to the list now ( Mike aka Haali in matroska-devel ). EVERY sane mailing list i know will use the ML email adress when 'reply' is pressed, i am 100% certain about this. However, i will bow my head to the will of the majority of the team members, however they decide here. Regards Christian From moritz at bunkus.org Tue Nov 16 18:19:20 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:19:20 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Bad configuration of the ML for 'reply-to' ? In-Reply-To: <419A27A7.1040006@matroska.org> References: <419A1152.1010903@matroska.org> <20041116144726.GA17956@bunkus.org> <419A27A7.1040006@matroska.org> Message-ID: <20041116171920.GM5928@bunkus.org> Hey, > Whatever this link is telling me ( i didnt read it ), Then why don't you read it? > i hate this behaviour and i am 100% sure this is not like this for a > complete year already. Definitely for over half a year. I can't even remember when I switched that back to its original setting. > And, as you may have noticed, other team members are also sending > email to list members instead of to the list now ( Mike aka Haali in > matroska-devel ). I won't quote all that's written on the page I linked to, but writing mails to a person and not to the list accidentally does not hurt anyone. Writing mails to the list instead of a person accidentally DOES hurt. One of the MANY reasons why Reply-To munging is bad. Another is that the presence of a Reply-To header forces the replying mailer to send the mail to that address. And that's just as wrong. Not inserting a Reply-To header (and therefore not forcing the users) is the right thing to do. > EVERY sane mailing list i know will use the ML email adress when 'reply' > is pressed, i am 100% certain about this. Then you're wrong, or you write on completely different MLs. Often MLs that are frequented by Outlook users use that because their mailer is simply fuckin' stupid and does so many things wrong that it gives you the creeps. But if you all want that braindead behaviour then I'll change it to inserting Reply-Tos if there isn't one already. BTW: You've got your mailer set to always insert a 'Reply-To' header. Why!? I will definitely NOT turn the ML over to overwriting an existing Reply-To header. So replies to your mails will aways go to you privately... > However, i will bow my head to the will of the majority of the team > members, however they decide here. I will do the same with the exception of overwriting existing Reply-To headers. Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds From fredflorio at club-internet.fr Tue Nov 16 18:08:48 2004 From: fredflorio at club-internet.fr (fred florio) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:08:48 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] ouvrir un fichier (RV10c+OGG) Message-ID: <000d01c4cbfe$f72a9030$5f85c3d4@fredjs2n04utei> Bonjour ? toute l'?quipe Tout d'abord un grand bravo car le mkv est une r?ussite au niveau de la qualit?... ma question est de savoir comment lire un fichier (RV10c+OGG). aucun de mes players (wmp, tcmp, mpc) ne l'ouvre... vous pouvez me r?pondre ? fredifredo at hotmail.com Merci d'avance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moritz at bunkus.org Wed Nov 17 15:28:43 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:28:43 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] mkvtoolnix 1.0 is out :) Message-ID: <20041117142843.GS5928@bunkus.org> Hey, Finally! Here it is: mkvtoolnix 1.0 I've meant to release this for over a week now, but something always got in the way. But no longer :) After... - nearly one year and ten months after joining the Matroska team on 2003-01-14, - over one year and five months since the first public release on 2003-06-12, - writing more than 62000 lines of code, documentation and examples, - a LOT of bugs, - as many bug fixes, - way too many hours of coding, idling on IRC, writing mails and posts to various forums ... I've decided to call this release 1.0. And I'm REALLY happy to have gotten this far. Because to be honest -- I don't do this for myself. If I was I would have stopped a long time ago, because the features that I want and need have been there for quite some time now. No, I work on this project for three reasons: 1. Fame, 2. Money, 3. becoming the Supreme Overlord of the Known Universe. Less important reasons are: 1. I believe that Matroska is a great project, and that the multimedia scene needed such a container. 2. You ask for it :) Seriously. Your constant feedback (be it bug reports or feature requests) tells me what I've done wrong and what you need. I really prefer doing things that a lot of people can use over doing things only I might need. So everyone out there contributing to the project, coding for Matroska, sending patches, reporting bugs, nagging me about new features, providing sample files (!), sending a nice postcard or a nice cup from this year's European championship in Portugal (!!) -- a big THANKS from my side to you all. You keep the project going as much as I do. 3. I like coding in general, and I like coding on this container level in particular. It's fun :) So what have I accomplished? Well, mkvtoolnix can handle a small number of different containers and flat file formats like - AAC, - AC3, - AVI - DTS, - FLAC, - Matroska ;) - MP3, - Ogg/OGM, - Quicktime/MP4, - RealMedia, - SRT, - SSA/ASS, - TTA, - VobSubs and - WAV. It can deal with a number of different codecs, meaning it knows exactly how to put them into Matroska: - AAC, - AC3, - DTS, - FLAC, - MP3, - PCM, - RealAudio, - RealVideo (pretty much all versions), - SRT, - SSA/ASS - TTA, - different video formats, - VobSubs, - Vorbis On top of that mkvmerge can handle attachments, chapters, tags, reorder tracks... There is a totally horrible GUI called mmg ;) which is probably the reason for mkvtoolnix' success on Windows (even though I really, really don't like GUI programming). There's a tool that can get most of those tracks out of a Matroska file into other container formats again. And there's a tool for getting information on a per-element level from a Matroska file. Quite some work, I assure you, but you know why I keep on doing this :) Another round of thanks goes out to the "core" of the Matroska team and those who don't consider themselves a member of the team but who've done tremendous work nevertheless (/me waves to alexnoe ;)). Where will I go from here? A few months ago I posted a "1.0 release plan", and I haven't changed my expectations since then. I will continue the 1.0 line with bug fixes only. I've started working on another code branch, often called 'trunk', which will result in a releast "1.2" next year. This is where new features will be implemented like support for MPEG1/2 video (already working on that, good progress), support for native MPEG4, support for appending / concatenating files (already working on that with very good progress), partial redesign of mmg etc. The "1.0" release line will stay stable and (hopefully) mostly bug free. And now to the usual links to... ... the home page: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/ ... the source code: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/sources/mkvtoolnix-1.0.tar.bz2 ... the Windows binaries: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/mkvtoolnix-1.0.rar Binary packages for Debian, FedoraCore and SuSE have already been built and uploaded to the home page. Here are the final changes between 0.9.7 and 1.0: ---------------------- cut ----------------------------- 2004-11-10 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: bug fix: The Matroska reader doesn't insist on having a default duration ( = FPS) for video tracks in the "AVI compatibility mode" ( = with the CodecID "V_MS/VFW/FOURCC"). This enables re-muxing of Matroska files created from MP4 files. 2004-11-05 Moritz Bunkus * mmg: bug fix: File names with non-ASCII characters were not working if mmg was compiled against a Unicode enabled wxWidgets. 2004-11-04 Moritz Bunkus * mkvmerge: new feature: Added reading DTS from AVIs and from Matroska files. * mkvmerge: bug fix: A variable initialization was missing which very recent gcc versions (3.4.2) did not like very much. Also fixed a small compilation bug. ---------------------- cut ----------------------------- You see, a couple of small bug fixes and small additions. Nothing major, and nothing to worry about. That's it for tonight. Have fun :) Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds From steve.lhomme at free.fr Wed Nov 17 15:36:31 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:36:31 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Matroska-users] mkvtoolnix 1.0 is out :) In-Reply-To: <20041117142843.GS5928@bunkus.org> References: <20041117142843.GS5928@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <419B61EF.1010707@free.fr> Moritz Bunkus a ?crit : > Hey, > > Finally! Here it is: mkvtoolnix 1.0 \o/ > And I'm REALLY happy to have gotten this far. Because to be honest -- > I don't do this for myself. If I was I would have stopped a long time > ago, because the features that I want and need have been there for > quite some time now. No, I work on this project for three reasons: > > 1. Fame, > 2. Money, > 3. becoming the Supreme Overlord of the Known Universe. Yeah, me too ! > Where will I go from here? A few months ago I posted a "1.0 release > plan", and I haven't changed my expectations since then. I will > continue the 1.0 line with bug fixes only. I've started working on > another code branch, often called 'trunk', which will result in a > releast "1.2" next year. This is where new features will be > implemented like support for MPEG1/2 video (already working on that, > good progress), support for native MPEG4, support for appending / > concatenating files (already working on that with very good progress), > partial redesign of mmg etc. The "1.0" release line will stay stable > and (hopefully) mostly bug free. Handling of chapters with codecs (DVD) and a new timecode file type :) From steve.lhomme at free.fr Thu Nov 18 11:16:41 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:16:41 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Plasma vs LCD Message-ID: <419C7689.6060000@free.fr> Interresting article that concludes LCD is the way to go. It's also interresting to see that (apparently) no HDTV 1080p exists so far. So maybe you can wait for the next generation of screens to get support for it. (in my case I want a wide screen with at least 1024 in vertical resolution and that could fit on my desk) http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/18/technology/circuits/18stat.html?ei=5088&en=ce4f7ccf07feefad&ex=1258520400&partner=rssnyt&pagewanted=print&position= (maybe you need to register, but it's totally free, and the NYT is a great paper) -- robUx4 on blog From the_Arioch at nm.ru Thu Nov 18 14:37:28 2004 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 16:37:28 +0300 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: ouvrir un fichier (RV10c+OGG) References: <000d01c4cbfe$f72a9030$5f85c3d4@fredjs2n04utei> Message-ID: The stars so gaily glistened... (Tue, 16 Nov 2004 18:08:48 +0100 @756) ...while the fading voice of fred whispered through the darkness: ff> Bonjour toute l'quipe ?????? ?????. ??????? ?? ?????????? ??????. ?????? ? ??? ?? ????? :-) http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html 1) please, use English in internatinal forums, otherwise You're leaving abroad manye people, who potentially could be helpful. 2) HTML is not usually treated well in forums. Best luck! -- ICQ - xmpp:arioch at jabber.ru xmpp:93438391 at icq.jabber.ru http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Arioch)at(nm)dot(ru WinAMP://none: WinAMP is suffocated From steve.lhomme at free.fr Thu Nov 18 17:25:19 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 17:25:19 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Plasma vs LCD In-Reply-To: <93080e5e04111808099438f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <419C7689.6060000@free.fr> <93080e5e04111808099438f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <419CCCEF.6080808@free.fr> Apparently you'll have to wait for a couple of years. I've had my current LCD display for 3+ years. So if I change it in a few month maybe the next one will be OLED. And indeed it looks promising, but the pixels seem to be big for the moment (size compared to number of pixels). Stephen Micheals a ?crit : > Personaly im still waiting for some nice OLED displays. > > OLED links > http://optics.org/articles/news/10/6/4/1#epson > http://reviews-zdnet.com.com/AnchorDesk/4520-6033_16-4207725.html > > > On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:16:41 +0100, Steve Lhomme wrote: > >>Interresting article that concludes LCD is the way to go. It's also >>interresting to see that (apparently) no HDTV 1080p exists so far. So >>maybe you can wait for the next generation of screens to get support for >>it. (in my case I want a wide screen with at least 1024 in vertical >>resolution and that could fit on my desk) >> >>http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/18/technology/circuits/18stat.html?ei=5088&en=ce4f7ccf07feefad&ex=1258520400&partner=rssnyt&pagewanted=print&position= >> >>(maybe you need to register, but it's totally free, and the NYT is a >>great paper) >> >>-- >>robUx4 on blog -- robUx4 on blog From steve.lhomme at free.fr Fri Nov 19 09:52:03 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 09:52:03 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] More XHTML enforcing ? Message-ID: <419DB433.7040305@free.fr> http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/5553.html For those who think nothing is done to make sure the web is clean (or gets cleaner). -- robUx4 on blog From send2dingo at hotmail.com Fri Nov 19 15:56:21 2004 From: send2dingo at hotmail.com (Brian Abela) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:56:21 +1100 Subject: [Matroska-general] file conversion Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve.lhomme at free.fr Fri Nov 19 17:11:01 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:11:01 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] file conversion In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <419E1B15.1060601@free.fr> Brian Abela a ?crit : > To who may concern, > I wonder if you could help me pls. I have > a few media files wich are .MKV format, and I wonder if yous have any > programms that convert the mkv file to an avi, mpeg, vcd, svd or > dvd format, so I can play on the DVD player . I've been to the matroka > site, under downloads and i couldn't find any tools which says the > things that i want. > > Thats all for now, and wait for your response. > Thankyou. Nop, there is no such tool for the moment. You can at least convert an MKV to AVI provided the codec (not RealVideo for example) can fit in AVI. Use Avi-Mux GUI or mkvextract. From vietboi_inluv at hotmail.com Sat Nov 20 04:37:26 2004 From: vietboi_inluv at hotmail.com (Phuoc Nguyen) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 22:37:26 -0500 Subject: [Matroska-general] Problem With .MKV Files Message-ID: Hi there matroska General ML, It's my first time playing a file with an extension of .mkv, and i've had some troubles with the video as it seems to be choppy. I have already installed the matroska codec pack and a bunch of other codecs too, but it still doesn't seem to fix the choppyness of the video. If you know of any way that i could fix this problem please mail me back with your advice. I'll be impatiently waiting for the reply as I have the urge to play my .mkv files. Thanks for your time, bye. Viet-Boi-In-Luv _________________________________________________________________ MSN? Calendar keeps you organized and takes the effort out of scheduling get-togethers. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN? Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. From steve.lhomme at free.fr Sat Nov 20 11:37:48 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 11:37:48 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Problem With .MKV Files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <419F1E7C.7050908@free.fr> Phuoc Nguyen a ?crit : > Hi there matroska General ML, > It's my first time playing a file with an extension of .mkv, and i've > had some troubles with the video as it seems to be choppy. I have > already installed the matroska codec pack and a bunch of other codecs > too, but it still doesn't seem to fix the choppyness of the video. If > you know of any way that i could fix this problem please mail me back > with your advice. I'll be impatiently waiting for the reply as I have > the urge to play my .mkv files. Thanks for your time, bye. > Viet-Boi-In-Luv Did you try to remux if to AVI to see if it works better ? What codec and bitrate do your files use ? What machine configuration and OS do you use ? From steve.lhomme at free.fr Mon Nov 22 10:11:55 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:11:55 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Video On Demand Message-ID: <41A1AD5B.3030905@free.fr> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/22/business/media/22adco.html?ei=5088&en=dcd7fa24333fffe3&ex=1258866000&partner=rssnyt&pagewanted=print&position= You thought you could escape commercials ? Those fils de pub (as we say in France) can't stand anything that escapes them... And also "People using TiVo and other digital video recorders expect to be able to fast-forward through commercials". I think they will soon use the same DVD commands to forbid you to skip some parts of the content for TiVo and similar systems (similar to the protection bit that forbids copying the content). -- robUx4 on blog From moritz at bunkus.org Tue Nov 23 11:41:29 2004 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:41:29 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Bad configuration of the ML for 'reply-to' ? In-Reply-To: <419A1152.1010903@matroska.org> References: <419A1152.1010903@matroska.org> Message-ID: <20041123104129.GP14213@bunkus.org> Hey, for the time being I've switched the Matroska MLs back to "replys go to the mailing list if the user hasn't added his own 'Reply-To' header". Let's see how this works out for us. Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds From steve.lhomme at free.fr Thu Nov 25 10:16:55 2004 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 10:16:55 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Real and Microsoft Message-ID: <41A5A307.4090001@free.fr> Hi, As you all know Real has filled a suit against Microsoft in the EU because of the integration of WMP in Windows. That's one of the famous anti-trust suits... So it's clear that Real's competitor is Microsoft. But the status of the technology right now is that it's impossible to use RealVideo out of RealPlayer or in Windows with DirectShow. And this is a real problem for Matroska as lots of files are distributed in RealVideo. So I would like to contact Real in the name of Matroska to ask them to allow apps like VLC to be allowed to display RealVideo one way or another (maybe MPlayer too, I don't know if it can and if so probably not on PPC)... The other option would be that they add Matroska support in RealPlayer (which we can code). With more than 500,000 downloads of the pack, we can claim a good user base. It might be a good point for Real. Opinions ? -- robUx4 on blog From Liisachan at faireal.net Thu Nov 25 10:43:19 2004 From: Liisachan at faireal.net (Liisachan) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:43:19 +0900 Subject: [Matroska-general] Real and Microsoft In-Reply-To: <41A5A307.4090001@free.fr> References: <41A5A307.4090001@free.fr> Message-ID: <20041125184319Oe6lue@faireal.net> Steve Lhomme wrote: > ... The other option would be that they add Matroska support > in RealPlayer (which we can code). At least this should be highly possible; they already have a playback plugin for the Ogg Container, which works very well at least on Windows for Vorbis+Theora. https://helixcommunity.org/projects/xiph/ There is already an output plugin for MKV too, i.e. mkvwriter.dll (Matroska File Format Writer Plugin for Helix Producer). Liisachan From chris at matroska.org Thu Nov 25 20:42:09 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:42:09 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Real and Microsoft In-Reply-To: <41A5A307.4090001@free.fr> References: <41A5A307.4090001@free.fr> Message-ID: <41A63591.7000507@matroska.org> Steve Lhomme schrieb: > Hi, > As you all know Real has filled a suit against Microsoft in the EU > because of the integration of WMP in Windows. That's one of the famous > anti-trust suits... So it's clear that Real's competitor is Microsoft. > But the status of the technology right now is that it's impossible to > use RealVideo out of RealPlayer or in Windows with DirectShow. And > this is a real problem for Matroska as lots of files are distributed > in RealVideo. > So I would like to contact Real in the name of Matroska to ask them to > allow apps like VLC to be allowed to display RealVideo one way or > another (maybe MPlayer too, I don't know if it can and if so probably > not on PPC)... The other option would be that they add Matroska > support in RealPlayer (which we can code). > With more than 500,000 downloads of the pack, we can claim a good user > base. It might be a good point for Real. > Opinions ? Real and matroska are a 100% fit IMO. RM/RMVB is a container targeted towards streaming, and it no doubt does a splendid job for this. I remember just recently i wanted to see some video from a website, offered as RMVB, MOV or WMV. The connection was bad, it was suffering from packet loss and interruptions ( WLAN problems ), and the RMVB had by far the best performance under these circumstances. This is probably because RM/RMVB development is focussing 100% on streaming, resulting in some compromises with respect to editing or storing content on media such as DVD/CDs. Real could achieve 2 things by adopting matroska for their purposes : 1. MKV is a clear competitor to AVI and MOV, as a general use container. Real Networks tried to cooperate with Apple ( QT/MOV ) recently, but Steve Jobs made clear he has no intentions to do so ( resulting in Real harmony, an Itunes competitor with perfect IPod playback compatibility as we all know ) and their relationship to M$ is well known since years already. 2. MKV could perfectly replace RM/RMVB for those purposes where its not good at, like mentioned above, giving the Real Netowork developers the possibility to fully concentrate on streaming. 3. By adopting another opensource, public domaine container format in their players and in Helix they could gain some more recognition and credibility from the OSS community, even if they are supporting OGG and Theora already right now. Bear in mind, OGG Theora is more or less a direct competitor to RM/RMVB with respect to its main usage, i.e. content distribution via internet ( streaming ), while MKV is not. 4. If they ever have plans to create a general use codec API on top of Helix, like Quicktime and VfW/Dshow are doing already, they NEED a general use container for storing this kind of files. MKV would be ideal for that. So yes, i support Steve's idea to contact Real Networks again about MKV playback support in Realplayer. Just lets make sure they dont run into licensing problems of any kind, be it for the roots of MKV ( XML = Apple ) or the MKV menue system, taken from the DVD specs ;-) .... Christian From the_Arioch at nm.ru Mon Nov 29 15:40:07 2004 From: the_Arioch at nm.ru (Arioch /BDV/) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 17:40:07 +0300 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: file conversion References: <419E1B15.1060601@free.fr> Message-ID: The stars so gaily glistened... (Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:11:01 +0100 @715) ...while the fading voice of Steve whispered through the darkness: SL> Use Avi-Mux GUI or mkvextract. one more app it VirtualDubMod (www.sf.net -> search) It supports 3 formats: AVI, OGM and MKV You may try to open Your file, switch VDM to quick mode (menu Video|Direct Copy, then menu Streams|List, set Direct Copy for each audio stream) and try to save as AVI -- ICQ - xmpp:arioch at jabber.ru xmpp:93438391 at icq.jabber.ru http://Arioch.nm.ru/FL/Fidolook_SL.png Mail: the_Arioch)at(nm)dot(ru WinAMP://none: WinAMP is suffocated From chris at matroska.org Tue Nov 30 06:34:04 2004 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 06:34:04 +0100 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: Hi Chris In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <41AC064C.4080303@matroska.org> Hi Adrian, yeah, i fully agree here. You know anybody who could look at that :-) ? We have some nice MKV file info tools ( mkvinfo, mkvverify, mediainfo, matroskadiag ) but no repair tools. Good idea ! Christian Adrian Mocanu schrieb: > I just want to suggest that a matroska file repair utility would be > useful. > > Adrian From paul at msn.com Tue Nov 30 07:24:54 2004 From: paul at msn.com (Paul Bryson) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 00:24:54 -0600 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: Hi Chris References: <41AC064C.4080303@matroska.org> Message-ID: "Christian HJ Wiesner" wrote... > yeah, i fully agree here. You know anybody who could look at that :-) ? We > have some nice MKV file info tools ( mkvinfo, mkvverify, mediainfo, > matroskadiag ) but no repair tools. Good idea ! For a damaged MKV, I just run it through mkvmerge and it seems to do an okay job. Of course there are more features you could have in a dedicated repair tool, but it works fine for most things. Atamido From Liisachan at faireal.net Tue Nov 30 08:23:47 2004 From: Liisachan at faireal.net (Liisachan) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 16:23:47 +0900 Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: Hi Chris In-Reply-To: <41AC064C.4080303@matroska.org> References: <41AC064C.4080303@matroska.org> Message-ID: <20041130162347vcXEGy@faireal.net> Christian HJ Wiesner wrote: > > Hi Adrian, > > yeah, i fully agree here. You know anybody who could look at that :-) ? > We have some nice MKV file info tools ( mkvinfo, mkvverify, mediainfo, > matroskadiag ) but no repair tools. Good idea ! > > Christian > > Adrian Mocanu schrieb: > > > I just want to suggest that a matroska file repair utility would be > > useful. > > > > Adrian More aggressively, I even would like to make MKV with recovery record, like RAR, which would play perfectly, even a few bytes were corrupted. Just a wild dream. Liisachan > > > _______________________________________________ > Matroska-general mailing list > Matroska-general at lists.matroska.org > http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-general