From derailed.trainyard at gmail.com Sun May 1 01:56:02 2005 From: derailed.trainyard at gmail.com (Derailed) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:56:02 -0700 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Multiple Angles of Matroska In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for replying back! The editions were perfect for this. I had a few questions about it though. Is there a way name the editions? Also, wanted to know, if there was a way for Haali's Matroska to label a video source as a "multiple source" instead of labeling it a language. Just looks ugly as undetermined heh. From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Sun May 1 08:00:18 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 08:00:18 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Multiple Angles of Matroska In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42747072.3030101@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Derailed wrote: >Thanks for replying back! The editions were perfect for this. I had a >few questions about it though. Is there a way name the editions? > In AVI-Mux GUIs chapter editor, it works just like naming Chapters When using mkvmerge, you have to write a Tags file. Here is a sample file. http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~noe/Video-Zeug/AVIMux%20GUI/friends - season 2.rar However, you have to make 2 separate files, one containing the Chapters part and one containing the Tags part, if you want it to work in mkvmerge. Alex From mike at po.cs.msu.su Mon May 2 12:12:49 2005 From: mike at po.cs.msu.su (Mike Matsnev) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:12:49 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Incompatibility with MPC & Haali In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4275FD21.4030504@po.cs.msu.su> BlindWanderer wrote: > I've got an imcompatability issue with MPC & Haali when playing back files > created with ASF2MKV (by Gabest). What happens is that when using the Haali > splitter for matroska it stalls on the initial opening of the file. To start > playback the video first must be stopped (press the stop button), then started > (press the play button) this results in the video playing. This does not > happen when using Gabest's splitter. > > example file > http://home.comcast.net/~melkor/example.mkv Thanks for the report, i've found the problem. /Mike From mike at po.cs.msu.su Mon May 2 12:50:37 2005 From: mike at po.cs.msu.su (Mike Matsnev) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 14:50:37 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Problem with haali splitter and explorer in win2000 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <427605FD.5060609@po.cs.msu.su> Michael wrote: > When i select mkv file in explorer shell, windows tries to preview it and after > i select somethibg another, haali splitter's tray icon don't dissappear within > 5-10 minutes. When i select several files one by one, several icons remain > hanging in tray for some time. How could i solve that problem without disabling > preview? Or maybe the problem in this build of win2000? You could turn off the tray icon if your player provides access to the splitter menu. /Mike From ls at maico-diagnostic.com Tue May 3 16:48:59 2005 From: ls at maico-diagnostic.com (Lothar Sowada) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 16:48:59 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] matroskautils-src.zip Message-ID: <0D3353B6DCAE404CA90F0AE834ECCF0F316C62@mbent2.maico-diagnostic.de> Hello! I want to compile sources in matroskautils-src.zip found in http://matroska.free.fr/downloads/cdl/ Therefore I need libebml and libmatroska. The newest version of these libraries I can get is libebml.src-v0.4.4.zip found in http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libebml/ and libmatroska.src-v0.4.4.zip found in http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libmatroska/ But these both are older then that which are need in matroskautils-src.zip. One hint is that in source files of matroskautils occurs an include path with subdirectory /vc7 and in libebml.src-v0.4.4.zip and libmatroska.src-v0.4.4.zip are only files with subdirectory /vc6. Where can I get a newer version of libebml.src-v0.4.4.zip and libmatroska.src-v0.4.4.zip or an older version of matroskautils-src.zip which fits to sources of libebml.src-v0.4.4.zip and libmatroska.src-v0.4.4.zip? With kind regards, Lothar. MAICO Diagnostic GmbH Tel.: + 49 30 / 70 71 46-84 www.Maico-Diagnostic.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From moritz at bunkus.org Tue May 3 17:15:32 2005 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:15:32 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] matroskautils-src.zip In-Reply-To: <0D3353B6DCAE404CA90F0AE834ECCF0F316C62@mbent2.maico-diagnostic.de> References: <0D3353B6DCAE404CA90F0AE834ECCF0F316C62@mbent2.maico-diagnostic.de> Message-ID: <200505031715.36659.moritz@bunkus.org> Hey, > The newest version of these libraries I can get is libebml.src-v0.4.4.zip > found in http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libebml/ Lol! All files in that directory contain the sources, not only the ones with "src" in their names. Just download the ones with the highest version numbers (or the ones that the CDL requires). Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From steve.lhomme at free.fr Tue May 3 18:18:38 2005 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 18:18:38 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] matroskautils-src.zip In-Reply-To: <200505031715.36659.moritz@bunkus.org> References: <0D3353B6DCAE404CA90F0AE834ECCF0F316C62@mbent2.maico-diagnostic.de> <200505031715.36659.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <4277A45E.9030208@free.fr> There is also a link to "latest" for each lib. Moritz Bunkus a ?crit : > Hey, > > >>The newest version of these libraries I can get is libebml.src-v0.4.4.zip >>found in http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/libebml/ > > > Lol! All files in that directory contain the sources, not only the ones > with "src" in their names. Just download the ones with the highest > version numbers (or the ones that the CDL requires). > > Mosu From cps79 at inbox.ru Wed May 4 21:17:59 2005 From: cps79 at inbox.ru (cps) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 01:17:59 +0600 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Haali's media splitter problem Message-ID: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> Hi. Some time ago Haali's splitter stoped opening *.mkv files. I do not know, does this happened after update or not, I haven't save old installer, but now I get error message every time I trying to open matrosska file in any players, except media player classic (it opens file using builtin "low merit" filter). The strange thing is that haali's splitter opens avi files witout any problem. I've tested this issue with XVID+vorbis files, created in VirtualDubMod, XVID+mp3 file, muxed by mkvtoolnix (v1.01) and some other files I've found on my disk (there even was one with VP6 video stream). I've tryed to uninstall/reinstall splitter several times, few times updated it with no result. I'm using Athlon XP on Windows XP pro SP2, and I'm decoding almost all video and audio formats with ffdshow. From playful at gmx.at Thu May 5 14:18:00 2005 From: playful at gmx.at (filewalker) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 12:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> Message-ID: cps inbox.ru> writes: > > Hi. > Some time ago Haali's splitter stoped opening *.mkv files. I do not > know, does this happened after update or not, I haven't save old > installer, but now I get error message every time I trying to open > matrosska file in any players, except media player classic (it opens > file using builtin "low merit" filter). The strange thing is that > haali's splitter opens avi files witout any problem. I've tested this > issue with XVID+vorbis files, created in VirtualDubMod, XVID+mp3 file, > muxed by mkvtoolnix (v1.01) and some other files I've found on my disk > (there even was one with VP6 video stream). I've tryed to > uninstall/reinstall splitter several times, few times updated it with > no result. > I'm using Athlon XP on Windows XP pro SP2, and I'm decoding almost all > video and audio formats with ffdshow. > I can confirm this problem with MKV playback with Haali's parser. In Zoomplayer I get a "List Index out of bounds (-1)" error message and the video doesn't begin to play. After this message Zoomplayer hangs totally up and I have to close ZP within the Windows task manager. I also tried to downgrade to older versions( back to 10.04.2005) of Haali's splitter but this error message appears again. It doesn't happen always. Some files work but some not (although used Codecs (XviD/AAC) are the same). All files played fine with Haali's parser at the time after muxing. Now I installed latest MatroskaSplitter from Gabest and it works without any problems. No error message with any MKV file, every file works! So there must be a bug in Haali's parser. Hope this info helps for debugging Cu filewalker From mike at po.cs.msu.su Thu May 5 20:39:40 2005 From: mike at po.cs.msu.su (Mike Matsnev) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 22:39:40 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem In-Reply-To: References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> Message-ID: <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> filewalker wrote: > I can confirm this problem with MKV playback with Haali's parser. > In Zoomplayer I get a "List Index out of bounds (-1)" error message and the > video doesn't begin to play. > After this message Zoomplayer hangs totally up and I have to close ZP within the > Windows task manager. > > I also tried to downgrade to older versions( back to 10.04.2005) of Haali's > splitter but this error message appears again. > It doesn't happen always. Some files work but some not (although used Codecs > (XviD/AAC) are the same). All files played fine with Haali's parser at the time > after muxing. > > Now I installed latest MatroskaSplitter from Gabest and it works without any > problems. No error message with any MKV file, every file works! > > So there must be a bug in Haali's parser. > > Hope this info helps for debugging Unfortunately this doesnt help much, because I can't reproduce the problem, so I have no clue about fixing it. /Mike From cps79 at inbox.ru Thu May 5 21:35:20 2005 From: cps79 at inbox.ru (cps) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 01:35:20 +0600 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem In-Reply-To: <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> Message-ID: <1723637686.20050506013520@inbox.ru> > Unfortunately this doesnt help much, because I can't reproduce the > problem, so I have no clue about fixing it. Thanks, I solved my problem. Solution was to feed "low merit" to google. I've downloaded DFSMgr.exe and changed merit of Haali Media Splitter from 0x00600001 to 0x00400000 (one of nero's parser has it) and all started to work fine. I do not know, neither who assigned 0x00600001 merit to HMS, nor why this not affected avis. From mike at po.cs.msu.su Thu May 5 22:20:18 2005 From: mike at po.cs.msu.su (Mike Matsnev) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 00:20:18 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem In-Reply-To: <1723637686.20050506013520@inbox.ru> References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> <1723637686.20050506013520@inbox.ru> Message-ID: <427A8002.9010503@po.cs.msu.su> cps wrote: >>Unfortunately this doesnt help much, because I can't reproduce the >>problem, so I have no clue about fixing it. > Thanks, I solved my problem. Solution was to feed "low merit" to > google. I've downloaded DFSMgr.exe and changed merit of Haali Media > Splitter from 0x00600001 to 0x00400000 (one of nero's parser has it) > and all started to work fine. I do not know, neither who assigned > 0x00600001 merit to HMS, nor why this not affected avis. 0x00600000 is MERIT_NORMAL, I use MERIT_NORMAL+1 in my code, but still this value is not used when reading files, so I suspect that was a confilct with some other filter or codec pack that you installed in the meantime. /Mike From playful at gmx.at Fri May 6 11:57:39 2005 From: playful at gmx.at (filewalker) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:57:39 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> Message-ID: Mike Matsnev po.cs.msu.su> writes: > Unfortunately this doesnt help much, because I can't reproduce the > problem, so I have no clue about fixing it. > > /Mike > I uploaded an example file (contains 1 XviD video(latest version)/ 1 LC AAC audio, muxed with MKVMerge 1.4.1 (the same result as with 1.4.2) I used ffdshow for AAC decoding and "XviD" was set in ffdshow's video XviD setting. http://www.geocities.com/filewalker666/example.zip (copy and paste the address in a new fresh browser window, Geocities doesn't allow direct linking) Hope you can redroduce the problem. In Zoomplayer I get a "List Index out of bounds (-1)" error message and the video doesn't begin to play. Video plays fine with Gabest's MKV Splitter. Cu From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Fri May 6 12:18:05 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 12:18:05 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem In-Reply-To: References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> Message-ID: <427B445D.7030502@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> filewalker wrote: >I uploaded an example file (contains 1 XviD video(latest version)/ 1 LC AAC >audio, muxed with MKVMerge 1.4.1 (the same result as with 1.4.2) >I used ffdshow for AAC decoding and "XviD" was set in ffdshow's video XviD >setting. > >http://www.geocities.com/filewalker666/example.zip >(copy and paste the address in a new fresh browser window, Geocities doesn't >allow direct linking) > >Hope you can redroduce the problem. >In Zoomplayer I get a "List Index out of bounds (-1)" error message and the >video doesn't begin to play. > >Video plays fine with Gabest's MKV Splitter. > > In MPC, i can also play it with haali's splitter Alex From playful at gmx.at Fri May 6 14:24:00 2005 From: playful at gmx.at (filewalker) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> <427B445D.7030502@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > > filewalker wrote: > > >I uploaded an example file (contains 1 XviD video(latest version)/ 1 LC AAC > >audio, muxed with MKVMerge 1.4.1 (the same result as with 1.4.2) > >I used ffdshow for AAC decoding and "XviD" was set in ffdshow's video XviD > >setting. > > > >http://www.geocities.com/filewalker666/example.zip > >(copy and paste the address in a new fresh browser window, Geocities doesn't > >allow direct linking) > > > >Hope you can redroduce the problem. > >In Zoomplayer I get a "List Index out of bounds (-1)" error message and the > >video doesn't begin to play. > > > >Video plays fine with Gabest's MKV Splitter. > > > > > In MPC, i can also play it with haali's splitter > > Alex Thanks Alex for your testing with MPC! You're right. It tested it myself now in MPC and it works well. So it seems to be a bug in Zoomplayer and not in the parser. Sorry Haali for my prompt bugreport without testing it with other players. Cu filewalker From paul at msn.com Fri May 6 17:56:32 2005 From: paul at msn.com (Atamido) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 10:56:32 -0500 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem In-Reply-To: References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> <427B445D.7030502@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: filewalker wrote: > Thanks Alex for your testing with MPC! > You're right. It tested it myself now in MPC and it works well. MPC has it's own Matroska parser built in and won't use Haali's by default. Try to open the file in GraphEdit and see what filters it lies out. Atamido From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Fri May 6 18:03:29 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 18:03:29 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem In-Reply-To: References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> <427B445D.7030502@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: <427B9551.5020800@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Atamido wrote: > filewalker wrote: > >> Thanks Alex for your testing with MPC! >> You're right. It tested it myself now in MPC and it works well. > > > MPC has it's own Matroska parser built in and won't use Haali's by > default. Appearently you have never installed it... of course does it. It disables MPC's internal splitter by default during installation Alex From nise at newmail.ru Sat May 7 17:49:03 2005 From: nise at newmail.ru (Vincent) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> Message-ID: cps inbox.ru> writes: > > Hi. > Some time ago Haali's splitter stoped opening *.mkv files. I do not > know, does this happened after update or not, I haven't save old > installer, but now I get error message every time I trying to open > matrosska file in any players, except media player classic (it opens > file using builtin "low merit" filter). The strange thing is that > haali's splitter opens avi files witout any problem. I've tested this > issue with XVID+vorbis files, created in VirtualDubMod, XVID+mp3 file, > muxed by mkvtoolnix (v1.01) and some other files I've found on my disk > (there even was one with VP6 video stream). I've tryed to > uninstall/reinstall splitter several times, few times updated it with > no result. > I'm using Athlon XP on Windows XP pro SP2, and I'm decoding almost all > video and audio formats with ffdshow. > i had exactly the same problem + another issue with switching video streams in mp4 (in my earlier post). in my case it seemed to be matroska pack 1.03 filters not uninstalling properly thru their uninstaller (filters got deleted but they still remained in the list of registered filters). i had to reinstall matroska pack, manually unregister their matroska filters, then uninstall the pack itself and finally install haali's splitter. From cps79 at inbox.ru Sun May 8 13:06:09 2005 From: cps79 at inbox.ru (cps) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:06:09 +0600 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem In-Reply-To: References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> Message-ID: <397827882.20050508170609@inbox.ru> ????????????, Vincent. ?? ?????? 7 ??? 2005 ?., 21:49:03: > i had exactly the same problem + another issue with switching video streams in > mp4 (in my earlier post). in my case it seemed to be matroska pack 1.03 > filters not uninstalling properly thru their uninstaller (filters got deleted > but they still remained in the list of registered filters). i had to reinstall > matroska pack, manually unregister their matroska filters, then uninstall the > pack itself and finally install haali's splitter. It seems you are right. I've checked and found these codecs in DirectShow filters list. -- ? ?????????, cps mailto:cps79 at inbox.ru From paul at msn.com Sun May 8 14:57:20 2005 From: paul at msn.com (Atamido) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 07:57:20 -0500 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem In-Reply-To: <427B9551.5020800@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> <427B445D.7030502@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <427B9551.5020800@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: Alexander Noe' wrote: > Atamido wrote: >> MPC has it's own Matroska parser built in and won't use Haali's by >> default. > > > Appearently you have never installed it... of course does it. It disables > MPC's internal splitter by default during installation But if you don't have MPC until after you install Haali's splitter... Atamido From playful at gmx.at Tue May 10 17:41:35 2005 From: playful at gmx.at (filewalker) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 15:41:35 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's media splitter problem References: <304717671.20050505011759@inbox.ru> <427A686C.8040105@po.cs.msu.su> <427B445D.7030502@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <427B9551.5020800@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: Atamido msn.com> writes: > > Alexander Noe' wrote: > > Atamido wrote: > >> MPC has it's own Matroska parser built in and won't use Haali's by > >> default. > > > > > > Appearently you have never installed it... of course does it. It disables > > MPC's internal splitter by default during installation > > But if you don't have MPC until after you install Haali's splitter... > > Atamido Blight found the bug in ZP. The problem appears only if ZP's "Preferred Stream Selection" is checked. Next ZP's beta should handle it. Cu From nise at newmail.ru Tue May 10 20:43:13 2005 From: nise at newmail.ru (Vincent) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:43:13 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] using tags for editions Message-ID: instead of: Editions Edition 1 Edition 2 i'd like to see something meaningful in the menu describing these editions - like the info from the tags that i assigned to them. i am not sure if it's already working and it's just me doing smth incorrectly or it hasn't been implemented yet. pls help me to figure it out. i have two ordered editions in this file, one of them default, and that part of this project works just fine during playback. to add tags to the editions i took their uids from mkvmerge xml chapter file and created this test file that you can see below. in mmg i used it as a global tag file. now firstly this info is not displayed anywhere during playback. secondly opening tags tab in matroskaprop i actually do see that info but all of my entries are mixed up, some are missing and also they don't appear to be assigned to any uids. and if i try to manually do that in the respective box on this tab i only get a list of chapter and track uids - edition uids are not available there. mkvinfo also doesn't display any of my tags under edition entry items. so is there a way to make it all work right? 2437069876 VIDEO Myl?nium Tour SEGMENT Live ANGLE_NUMBER 1 3013902780 VIDEO Myl?nium Tour SEGMENT Live ANGLE_NUMBER 2 From mike at po.cs.msu.su Wed May 11 18:34:24 2005 From: mike at po.cs.msu.su (Mike Matsnev) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:34:24 +0400 Subject: [Matroska-devel] using tags for editions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42823410.2080605@po.cs.msu.su> Vincent wrote: > instead of: > > Editions > Edition 1 > Edition 2 > > i'd like to see something meaningful in the menu describing these editions - > like the info from the tags that i assigned to them. i am not sure if it's > already working and it's just me doing smth incorrectly or it hasn't been > implemented yet. pls help me to figure it out. > > i have two ordered editions in this file, one of them default, and that part > of this project works just fine during playback. to add tags to the editions i > took their uids from mkvmerge xml chapter file and created this test file that > you can see below. in mmg i used it as a global tag file. > > now firstly this info is not displayed anywhere during playback. secondly > opening tags tab in matroskaprop i actually do see that info but all of my > entries are mixed up, some are missing and also they don't appear to be > assigned to any uids. and if i try to manually do that in the respective box > on this tab i only get a list of chapter and track uids - edition uids are not > available there. mkvinfo also doesn't display any of my tags under edition > entry items. > > so is there a way to make it all work right? You need to manually set IDs in both chapter and tag files. If chapter IDs are not set, mkvmerge generates new random IDs each time it is run. /Mike From nise at newmail.ru Wed May 11 20:54:06 2005 From: nise at newmail.ru (Vincent) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: using tags for editions References: <42823410.2080605@po.cs.msu.su> Message-ID: Mike Matsnev po.cs.msu.su> writes: > You need to manually set IDs in both chapter and tag files. If chapter > IDs are not set, mkvmerge generates new random IDs each time it is run. > > /Mike > i just opened the mkv file in mkvinfo gui with "show all elements" option and finally found my tags there. everything seems to be correct. edition uids under chapters match target edition uids under tags. so it must be just a matter of whether the splitter wants to display that info or not. From steve.lhomme at free.fr Wed May 11 21:16:56 2005 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:16:56 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Future Pack 1.1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4257BCB0.3070304@free.fr> Message-ID: <42825A28.7090305@free.fr> filewalker a ?crit : > Blight: > "btw, to get subs to work with this splitter, you need DirectVobSub v2.37 or > whatever gabest will call it when he eventually releases it. Cause in 2.36 > there's a bug on certain systems that makes the video appear totally black and > 2.33 doesn't work at all as it won't connect to the splitter....Well, gabest has > fixed the problem for the official one, I have a fixed build here, just waiting > for him to do it officially." I hope Blight fixed it on his side, because Gabest hasn't released a new build (and doesn't talk much since the GPL violation). > Concerning MatroskaProp2.8.: > Yesterday I installed a new WinXP. > Today I installed MProp again, but "msvcr71.dll" was missing in my system. > Maybe it's a good idea if this .dll would be installed within your new pack to > get it working without seperate downloading & copying this .dll into system > folder... Indeed, this MatroskaProp problem is still there... From nise at newmail.ru Sat May 14 13:16:40 2005 From: nise at newmail.ru (Vincent) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support Message-ID: i couldn't use any of these elements in xml chapter file and load that into mkvmerge. i was getting chapter parser errors. importing xml files in avi-mux gui 1.17 beta doesn't seem to work yet. will it support these elements when importing is fixed? From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Sat May 14 13:22:27 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 13:22:27 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Vincent wrote: >importing xml files in avi-mux gui 1.17 beta doesn't seem to work yet. > It does, but it doesn't support ChapterTrack(Number) yet. Alex From nise at newmail.ru Sat May 14 13:30:07 2005 From: nise at newmail.ru (Vincent) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support References: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > > Vincent wrote: > > >importing xml files in avi-mux gui 1.17 beta doesn't seem to work yet. > > > It does, but it doesn't support ChapterTrack(Number) yet. > > Alex > thank you for your quick reply. i really cannot figure out how to import a chapter file in amg, i tried drag&drop but nothing happens. could you pls explain how exactly it should be done? From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Sat May 14 13:37:06 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 13:37:06 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support In-Reply-To: References: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: <4285E2E2.8030409@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Vincent wrote: >Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > > > >>Vincent wrote: >> >> >> >>>importing xml files in avi-mux gui 1.17 beta doesn't seem to work yet. >>> >>> >>> >>It does, but it doesn't support ChapterTrack(Number) yet. >> >>Alex >> >> >> > >thank you for your quick reply. i really cannot figure out how to import a >chapter file in amg, i tried drag&drop but nothing happens. > You open it just like any other media file. Then you'll see what you've imported in the chapter editor. Alex From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Sat May 14 13:49:45 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 13:49:45 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support In-Reply-To: References: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: <4285E5D9.1040300@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Vincent wrote: >Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > > > >>Vincent wrote: >> >> >> >>>importing xml files in avi-mux gui 1.17 beta doesn't seem to work yet. >>> >>> >>> >>It does, but it doesn't support ChapterTrack(Number) yet. >> >>Alex >> >> >> > >thank you for your quick reply... > OK, I just realized that I had to fix the manual :) Alex From nise at newmail.ru Sat May 14 14:03:56 2005 From: nise at newmail.ru (Vincent) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support References: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <4285E5D9.1040300@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > > Vincent wrote: > > >Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > > > > > > > >>Vincent wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>importing xml files in avi-mux gui 1.17 beta doesn't seem to work yet. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>It does, but it doesn't support ChapterTrack(Number) yet. > >> > >>Alex > >> > >> > >> > > > >thank you for your quick reply... > > > OK, I just realized that I had to fix the manual :) > > Alex > when i try to add it as a media file i get this error message: only the following file types are supported avi mkv mp3 wav ac3 dts aac ogg/vorbis srt ssa and valid amg script files. the file is then still added to opened files list. but when i open chapter editor it's empty. maybe i'm using the download archive incorrectly. i add languages.amg file to the unpacked files from 1.16.11 folder cos otherwise 1.17 crashes with "can't find languages.amg" message. From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Sat May 14 14:14:13 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:14:13 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support In-Reply-To: References: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <4285E5D9.1040300@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: <4285EB95.2040005@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Vincent wrote: >Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > > > >>Vincent wrote: >> >> >> >>>Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Vincent wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>importing xml files in avi-mux gui 1.17 beta doesn't seem to work yet. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>It does, but it doesn't support ChapterTrack(Number) yet. >>>> >>>>Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>thank you for your quick reply... >>> >>> >>> >>OK, I just realized that I had to fix the manual :) >> >>Alex >> >> >> > >when i try to add it as a media file i get this error message: > >only the following file types are supported avi mkv mp3 wav ac3 dts aac >ogg/vorbis srt ssa and valid amg script files. > > Then please send that xml file to noe at hrz.tu-chemnitz.de >the file is then still added to opened files list. but when i open chapter >editor it's empty. > >maybe i'm using the download archive incorrectly. i add languages.amg file to >the unpacked files from 1.16.11 folder cos otherwise 1.17 crashes with "can't >find languages.amg" message. > > You should unpack the beta archive just over an existing 1.16.11 Alex From nise at newmail.ru Sat May 14 14:15:10 2005 From: nise at newmail.ru (Vincent) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support References: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <4285E5D9.1040300@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > >>It does, but it doesn't support ChapterTrack(Number) yet. > >> > >>Alex > >> > >> > >> > > > >thank you for your quick reply... > > > OK, I just realized that I had to fix the manual :) > > Alex > i figured it out finally. it only imports xml chapter files created by amg itself. to import mmg chapter file lines need to be added before and after chapter description. From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Sat May 14 14:23:08 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:23:08 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support In-Reply-To: References: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <4285E5D9.1040300@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: <4285EDAC.5030306@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Vincent wrote: > >i figured it out finally. it only imports xml chapter files created by amg >itself. to import mmg chapter file lines need to be added >before and after chapter description. > > This is not supposed to be the case. I'll look at this Alex From alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de Sat May 14 14:26:45 2005 From: alexander.noe at s2001.tu-chemnitz.de (Alexander Noe') Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:26:45 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ChapterTrack and ChapterTrackNumber support In-Reply-To: References: <4285DF73.7010205@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> <4285E5D9.1040300@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Message-ID: <4285EE85.3080908@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> Vincent wrote: >Alexander Noe' s2001.tu-chemnitz.de> writes: > > > > >>>>It does, but it doesn't support ChapterTrack(Number) yet. >>>> >>>>Alex >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>thank you for your quick reply... >>> >>> >>> >>OK, I just realized that I had to fix the manual :) >> >>Alex >> >> >> > >i figured it out finally. it only imports xml chapter files created by amg >itself. to import mmg chapter file lines need to be added >before and after chapter description. > > I can't reproduce that problem, please send me the file that avi-mux gui refuses to accept Alex From taxaza at hotmail.com Wed May 18 11:12:30 2005 From: taxaza at hotmail.com (taxaza) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:12:30 +0300 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Multiple subtitles and Haali splitter Message-ID: When I use use bsplayer to play matroska files only the first subtitle stream is detected. Using Gabest splitter all subtitles streams are detected and can be used. Could you please have a look into it? From steve.lhomme at free.fr Wed May 18 16:23:15 2005 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:23:15 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Multiple subtitles and Haali splitter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428B4FD3.1090907@free.fr> The bug is in BSPlayer. I just tried the latest version and it plays MPEG4 in Matroska, but not files with RealVideo. It works in all other players (MPC, TCMP, WMP, ZoomPlayer). taxaza a ?crit : > When I use use bsplayer to play matroska files only the first subtitle > stream is detected. Using Gabest splitter all subtitles streams are detected > and can be used. > > Could you please have a look into it? > _______________________________________________ > Matroska-devel mailing list > Matroska-devel at lists.matroska.org > http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-devel -- robUx4 on blog From doasinfinity2143 at hotmail.com Thu May 19 11:35:35 2005 From: doasinfinity2143 at hotmail.com (John Smith) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:35:35 +0000 Subject: [Matroska-devel] I need some help using Matroska. Message-ID: Yeah Like I said, I need some help with Matroska. I have a movie (DUAL), I think this means it has dual language capabilities. Its an anime, so its probably in English and Japanese. At the moment it is only in English. Now I know very little about this program or computers! So how do I change the language to Japanese?? I really do not like the English dubbing!!! PLease help! Thank you for your time. I hope to hear from you soon. _________________________________________________________________ Update your mobile with a hot polyphonic ringtone: http://fun.mobiledownloads.com.au/191191/index.wl?page=template&contentType=PolyphonicRingTone From chris at matroska.org Fri May 20 14:53:43 2005 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:53:43 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Invitation to discuss about USF in MKV Message-ID: <428DDDD7.9000407@matroska.org> Hi, we decided to try to hold a brainstorming meeting to define how to store USF in MKV in the best possible way, the IRC meeting is taking place tomorrow on irc.corecodec.com #matroska-dev at saturday 21st May, 5 PM . Requested Participants : Mosu Alexnoe Unmei Kaiousama Haali but everybody else is gladly invited to join and contribute. If any of the people listed above cant join then, please come up with an alternative date/time. To get an idea about what we will have to discuss, read here : ChrisHJW_ lo MosuAtWork ChrisHJW_ long time no see ChrisHJW_ unmei , MosuAtWork : http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1259&start=15 <----- kaiousama knows how to make girls happy :D ChrisHJW_ Italians :) ChrisHJW_ lol ChrisHJW_ MosuAtWork : tell me when you are ready and have the time for a brainstorming with kaiousama and unmei about how to mux USF into MKV in best way, i will gladly try to organize an IRC meeting then ChrisHJW_ alexnoe said its not as easy as muxing SSA if we want to do it right ChrisHJW_ as USF will allow colour palette changes in a single stream ChrisHJW_ i understand that if we take the SSA route, we needed a codec state element, as colour palette is defined in the track header ?? MosuAtWork this weekend should be fine, but not sunday evening, i'll be watching the sith ;) alexnoe :) ChrisHJW_ MosuAtWork : great :) robUx4 is going to watch it tonight ChrisHJW_ I'll send an email to -general , cc. to kaiousama and unmei, to meet saturday afternnon ? ChrisHJW_ robUx4 : you wonna join ? MosuAtWork well CodecState has been added for such changes mid-stream. we just have to revive it robUx4 nop MosuAtWork and start using it robUx4 I'm leaving to LA on tuesday so I'm quite busy here alexnoe codec state is b0rked ChrisHJW_ MosuAtWork : i agree, a spec conformant way to do this would be to use codec state ChrisHJW_ robUx4 : k robUx4 codec state is meant for the container to know about things needed for seeking robUx4 but from what I understood it may not be needed for USF ChrisHJW_ robUx4 : right, for colour palette only the container wouldnt need to know and we could define this in the USF stream, but what about allowing resolution changes also ? robUx4 matroska does not support resolution change MosuAtWork it's not resolution change MosuAtWork it's out-of-band configuration change ChrisHJW_ robUx4 : in any case, if we leave colour palette in the USF stream, should we also add it to the track header then ( the 'initial' palette ), or leave it away completely ? robUx4 kaiousama and unmei can tell better MosuAtWork robUx4: at the moment the description of codecstate seems to be just fine MosuAtWork for this purpose ChrisHJW_ MosuAtWork : can we handle codec state on DirectShow ? MosuAtWork no clue robUx4 ok ChrisHJW_ maybe Haali could tell MosuAtWork Haali will have to comment on that ChrisHJW_ alexnoe : why is codec state b0rked ? MosuAtWork Haali will have to comment on that ChrisHJW_ alexnoe : why is codec state b0rked ? MosuAtWork but the container should be more or less indedependant of the OS APIs ;) robUx4 so we need to handle the codec state in the cue as originally planned alexnoe ChrisHJW_ because it makes remuxing b0rked MosuAtWork robUx4: it HAS to! otherwise the decoder won't have the current information after seeking robUx4 alexnoe, nop MosuAtWork alexnoe: why should it? robUx4 yup, that's my idea ChrisHJW_ alexnoe : USF cant be used in any other container than MKV yet, so why should we care ? alexnoe it would allow to join incompatible streams into one segment, making it necessary to create new codecstates... robUx4 alexnoe, it's not much different than block addition alexnoe :( robUx4 only the meaning is different robUx4 and the occurence ChrisHJW_ Hmmm .... somehow i wonder if using codec state would mean we have reinitialize the stream on DShow ? ChrisHJW_ codec state is read and used by the parser, right ? ChrisHJW_ only alternative i see is to create another API sitting on top of DShow, with USF decoder and MKV parser communicating directly ChrisHJW_ like what Toff did with Gabest's splitter, to read out track header robUx4 you pass the codec state each time with the codec data robUx4 or only when needed, as an optional field in a structure (maybe EBML like) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chris at matroska.org Fri May 20 21:53:54 2005 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 21:53:54 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Serious problem with matroska pack 1.1.0 Message-ID: <428E4052.9000403@matroska.org> Hi all, it seems that there is a serious problem with the 1.1.0 pack, as for some users the uninstallation of the old splitter doesnt work, leading to a conflict between Haali's and Gabest's splitter and as a result of that no MKV files will play at all. I have no idea why the uninstallation of the old splitters is failing for these people, maybe they are facing problems with their Windows installation ? Question is, can we do something about it ? Like for example setting a VERY low merit for Gabest's splitter BEFORE we try to uninstall it from the pack ? In any case, i feel we should release 1.1.1 as soon as possible .... Regards Christian From chris at matroska.org Sun May 22 09:15:37 2005 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:15:37 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] A historic day ! Mosu has muxed the first MKV file with USF subs inside :) ! Message-ID: <42903199.8040303@matroska.org> Title says it all. Expect an updated build of mkvtoolnix maybe even today. Now its Haali's part, trying to link to kaiousama's decoder filter :) ... Christian From moritz at bunkus.org Sun May 22 09:47:59 2005 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:47:59 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] USF muxing Message-ID: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> Hey guys, as Chris has already announced I've just implemented the first version of an USF subtitle reader and muxer into mkvmerge. It hasn't been tested a lot, the format it uses is DEFINITELY not meant for "production" etc etc etc. Here I want to give an overview of how it muxes USF into Matroska. This is meant as a basis for debate -- I don't know all that much about USF subs in the first place, and there may be better ways regarding how to store it inside Matroska. I'm attaching the example file that Alex No? has uploaded for me. I'll refer to that. So here it goes. 1. XML data is stored both in CodecPrivate and the blocks themselves. 2. The XML metadata (not the element!): Stuff like the style sheet definition or the XML header is dropped. The root element is dropped as well. 3. CodecPrivate. At the moment all but the elements beneath the root element are copied into the CodecPrivate as they are. White spaces are stipped. The CodecPrivate will contain the , etc nodes among others (basically really all that mkvmerge encounters safe for the element). This also means that the order in which the elements occured in the source file is destroyed. unmei said that order doesn't matter, and I hope it doesn't, so this shouldn't be a problem. 4. Each element is converted into one Matroska track. Each element is converted into Matroska's language header field. The element is dropped at the moment. Apart from the elements all other unknown elements beneath are dropped as well. 5. Each element is copied into one Matroska data block. The ... tags themselves are kept at the moment although I guess that they can/should be removed. The "start=" and "stop=" attributes of the element are stripped and converted into the start and duration of the Matroska data block. (The ... tags can be removed if there are no other attributes apart from "start=" and "stop=". Comments?) 6. Subtitles and CodecPrivate are compressed with ZLIB by default. This can be turned off manually by adding "--compression 0:none" on the command line before the input file or in the GUI. 7. CodecID is "S_TEXT/USF" at the moment, but as Chris pointed out, USF may also contain images. So maybe "S_USF" might be more appropriate. Comments? 8. mmg has been updated to list files with the extensions ".usf" and ".xml" for USF subtitles. Here's the link: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/pre//mkvtoolnix-unicode-1.4.2-build20050522-1.rar Comments more than welcome :) Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- ??? Was?! Ist das wahr, Drachen-G??ttin, Jade? Was?! Ist das wahr, Drachen-G??ttin, Jade? Ja, ich bin mir sicher,
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Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From moritz at bunkus.org Sun May 22 10:07:35 2005 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 10:07:35 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] libebml 0.7.5 & libmatroska 0.7.7 released Message-ID: <200505221007.39637.moritz@bunkus.org> Hey, (I'm sorry if this mail reaches you twice. I've had problems with the first one, so I'm seding it again.) libebml 0.7.5 and libmatroska 0.7.7 have been released and are available from http://dl.matroska.org/downloads/ Changes include fixes to the build system for MacOS X, slightly improved handling of the maximum size to read and other small fixes. Have a nice day. Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From moritz at bunkus.org Sun May 22 10:29:30 2005 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 10:29:30 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] USF muxing In-Reply-To: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <200505221029.32520.moritz@bunkus.org> Hey, On Sunday 22 May 2005 09:47, Moritz Bunkus wrote: > 5. Each element is copied into one Matroska data block. The > ... tags themselves are kept at the moment I've changed this. The specs say: @-duration (0..1) So stripping the complete ... tag seems the logical choice. An updated build that strips this tag is available at http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/pre//mkvtoolnix-unicode-1.4.2-build20050522-2.rar Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From unmei at matroska.org Sun May 22 22:06:04 2005 From: unmei at matroska.org (unmei) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 22:06:04 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: USF muxing In-Reply-To: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: About the attachment: The specs say nothing about a BOM, but i think we once agreed there should be none. Certainly it is not required. Valid USF files are always UTF-8 encoded. Also should actually occur exactly once (Yeah i know, this file seems to hve been saved with a particularly borked version of u96). Anyway, u96 and the rasteriser should accept both files with and without BOM. u96 should no longer add BOMs but maybe it keeps them if present. The data in the second metadata node is probably ignored by u96 (and i hope it no longer writes a second metadata node). Moritz Bunkus wrote: > Hey guys, > > as Chris has already announced I've just implemented the first version > of an USF subtitle reader and muxer into mkvmerge. It hasn't been tested > a lot, the format it uses is DEFINITELY not meant for "production" etc > etc etc. > > Here I want to give an overview of how it muxes USF into Matroska. This > is meant as a basis for debate -- I don't know all that much about USF > subs in the first place, and there may be better ways regarding how to > store it inside Matroska. > > I'm attaching the example file that Alex No? has uploaded for me. I'll > refer to that. > > So here it goes. > > 1. XML data is stored both in CodecPrivate and the blocks themselves. > > 2. The XML metadata (not the element!): Stuff like the style > sheet definition or the XML header is dropped. The > root element is dropped as well. > > 3. CodecPrivate. At the moment all but the elements beneath > the root element are copied into the CodecPrivate as > they are. White spaces are stipped. The CodecPrivate will contain the > , etc nodes among others (basically really all > that mkvmerge encounters safe for the element). > > This also means that the order in which the elements occured in the > source file is destroyed. unmei said that order doesn't matter, and I > hope it doesn't, so this shouldn't be a problem. > > 4. Each element is converted into one Matroska track. Each > element is converted into Matroska's language header > field. The element is dropped at the moment. Apart from > the elements all other unknown elements beneath > are dropped as well. > > 5. Each element is copied into one Matroska data block. The > ... tags themselves are kept at the moment > although I guess that they can/should be removed. The "start=" and > "stop=" attributes of the element are stripped and > converted into the start and duration of the Matroska data block. (The > ... tags can be removed if there are no other > attributes apart from "start=" and "stop=". Comments?) > > 6. Subtitles and CodecPrivate are compressed with ZLIB by default. This > can be turned off manually by adding "--compression 0:none" on the > command line before the input file or in the GUI. > > 7. CodecID is "S_TEXT/USF" at the moment, but as Chris pointed out, USF > may also contain images. So maybe "S_USF" might be more > appropriate. Comments? > > 8. mmg has been updated to list files with the extensions ".usf" and > ".xml" for USF subtitles. > > Here's the link: > http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/pre//mkvtoolnix-unicode-1.4.2-build20050522-1.rar > > Comments more than welcome :) > > Mosu > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was?! Ist das wahr, Drachen-G??ttin, Jade? > > > Was?! Ist das wahr, Drachen-G??ttin, Jade? > > > Ja, ich bin mir sicher,
Drachen-Meister. > > > Meine blinden Augen
haben in die Zukunft gesehen. > > > Alexiel wird auferstehen...! > > > Aber ihre Auferstehung bringt f??r
"Assiah", die physische Welt, > > > eine nicht wiedergutzumachende
Katastrophe mit sich. > > > Und verge??t nicht, > > > die Auferstehung von Alexiel
bedeutet f??r Setsuna Mudo den Tod. > > > Tod? Setsuna wird sterben? > > > "Es tut mir leid, aber
jetzt kann ich nichts f??r dich tun." > > > Ist mir doch egal, was aus ihm wird! > > > Mir reicht es,
wenn Alexiel zur??ckkommt. > > > > Angel Sanctuary - OVA 2 (deutsch)[kraut] > > [kraut] > rip, typeset > > 2003-10-27 > Deutsch > Freigegeben ab 16 Jahren.

Angel Sanctuary ist graphisch ein typisches CLAMP-Werk, die Thematik um Geschwisterliebe und Welten/Himmel/H??llen ist jedoch sehr erwachsenenorientiert.

DVD-Backtext:
Angel Sanctuary:
Alexiel, h??chster und geliebtester Engel des Himmels, verb??ndet sich mit einem Heer von D??monen, f??hrt eine Rebellion gegen Gott - und verliert den entscheidenden Kampf.
Gefangengenommen und eingeschmolzen in Engelskristall wird Alexiel's Seele in dem Erdenjungen Setsuna Mudo wiedergeboren, ohne dass dieser etwas von seinem Schiksal ahnt. Den 16-j??hrigen Sch??ler, der seine leibliche Schwester Sara liebt, wie es einem Bruder untersagt ist, qu??len mehr und mehr Horrorvisionen, als Engel und D??monen auf die Erde str??men um Alexiel wiederzuerwecken. Im Angesicht des Kampfes auf Leben und Tod entwickelt Setsuna pl??tzlich ??bernat??rliche Kr??fte.
Wird die Liebe zwischen Sara und Setsuna de n Zorn des Himmels und der H??lle ??berstehen?

Mysik und Religion, verpackt in einer dramatischen wie actionreichen Story um eine leidenschaftliche, aber verbotene Liebe - das ist die Geschicht von Angel Sanctuary.

(c) Kaori Yuki / Hakusensha / Angel Sanctuary Commitee
(p) 2003 OVA Films > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Matroska-devel mailing list > Matroska-devel at lists.matroska.org > http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-devel From paul at msn.com Mon May 23 01:45:04 2005 From: paul at msn.com (Atamido) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:45:04 -0500 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: USF muxing In-Reply-To: <200505221029.32520.moritz@bunkus.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> <200505221029.32520.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: Moritz Bunkus wrote: > Hey, > > On Sunday 22 May 2005 09:47, Moritz Bunkus wrote: > >>5. Each element is copied into one Matroska data block. The >> ... tags themselves are kept at the moment > > > I've changed this. The specs say: > > start="hh:mm:ss.mmm" @-start (1) > stop="hh:mm:ss.mmm" @-stop (0..1) > duration="hh:mm:ss.mmm"> @-duration (0..1) > > So stripping the complete ... tag seems the > logical choice. I agree. Everything else that was said in the grandparent post also looks good to me. Any chance that some of the metadata will be placed in the Tags instead of the codecprivate, or both? Atamido From moritz at bunkus.org Mon May 23 08:58:04 2005 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 08:58:04 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: USF muxing In-Reply-To: References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> <200505221029.32520.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <200505230858.07093.moritz@bunkus.org> Hey, On Monday 23 May 2005 01:45, Atamido wrote: > I agree. Everything else that was said in the grandparent post also > looks good to me. Great :) > Any chance that some of the metadata will be placed in the Tags > instead of the codecprivate, or both? I haven't looked at the specs regarding the metadata, but that can certainly be aranged. Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From moritz at bunkus.org Mon May 23 09:07:53 2005 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 09:07:53 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: USF muxing In-Reply-To: References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <200505230907.54122.moritz@bunkus.org> Hey, On Sunday 22 May 2005 22:06, unmei wrote: > The specs say nothing about a BOM, but i think we once agreed there > should be none. Certainly it is not required. mkvmerge's policy is: If a (text) file is written and its encoding is UTF-* then write a BOM. I'd like to stick to that. Reading will also probably not work with XML files encoded in UTF-8 without a BOM! > Valid USF files are always UTF-8 encoded. Not true, that's what the first line is for: Most XML parsers accept at least UTF-8 and ISO8859-1. > Also should actually occur exactly once :) mkvmerge doesn't care how often an element occurs, it just puts them into CodecPrivate as they come. It won't try to sanitize them either. > (Yeah i know, this file seems to hve been saved with a particularly > borked version of u96). ;) > Anyway, u96 and the rasteriser should accept both files with and > without BOM. That's good. > u96 should no longer add BOMs but maybe it keeps them if present. That's not good... It'll require some changes in mkvmerge. Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jaumesola at wanadoo.es Mon May 23 12:15:41 2005 From: jaumesola at wanadoo.es (Jaume Sol i Marco) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:15:41 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Haali's parser don't detect MP4-mode2form2 files in MPC Message-ID: Hi, Haali's parser are able to detect mp4 files with mode2form RIFF but is not the preferred filter at all. If I try to open these mp4-mode2form2 files in MPC or whatever (tested also in mplayer2, zoomplayer and GraphEdit) it can't ... but if I manually set the proper filter sequence on GraphEdit IT PLAYS!!!. So in GraphEdit I Begin whit Haali's parser + ffdshow video + vireo Renderer and no problem. But I'm not able to play these files on MPC because Haali's splitter is not the preferred filter when a MP4-m2f2 file is opened. If I do in AVI or MKV mode2form2 files then Haali's works properly. Please help me (or is it a bug on Haali's?) From steve.lhomme at free.fr Mon May 23 12:50:49 2005 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:50:49 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Serious problem with matroska pack 1.1.0 In-Reply-To: <428E4052.9000403@matroska.org> References: <428E4052.9000403@matroska.org> Message-ID: <4291B589.1050509@free.fr> This is now fixed in a newly released pack : Changes * Since 1.1.0 o Call the uninstaller of pack 1.0.x o Unregister Gabest's splitter o Update Haali's splitter to version 21-05-2005 o Added CoreFLAC to play .flac files Christian HJ Wiesner a ?crit : > > Hi all, > > it seems that there is a serious problem with the 1.1.0 pack, as for > some users the uninstallation of the old splitter doesnt work, leading > to a conflict between Haali's and Gabest's splitter and as a result of > that no MKV files will play at all. > > I have no idea why the uninstallation of the old splitters is failing > for these people, maybe they are facing problems with their Windows > installation ? Question is, can we do something about it ? Like for > example setting a VERY low merit for Gabest's splitter BEFORE we try to > uninstall it from the pack ? > > In any case, i feel we should release 1.1.1 as soon as possible .... > > Regards > > Christian > _______________________________________________ > Matroska-devel mailing list > Matroska-devel at lists.matroska.org > http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-devel -- robUx4 on blog From steve.lhomme at free.fr Mon May 23 15:08:52 2005 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:08:52 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: USF muxing In-Reply-To: <200505230907.54122.moritz@bunkus.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> <200505230907.54122.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <4291D5E4.5090200@free.fr> Moritz Bunkus a ?crit : > Hey, > > On Sunday 22 May 2005 22:06, unmei wrote: > >>The specs say nothing about a BOM, but i think we once agreed there >>should be none. Certainly it is not required. > > > mkvmerge's policy is: If a (text) file is written and its encoding is > UTF-* then write a BOM. I'd like to stick to that. Reading will also > probably not work with XML files encoded in UTF-8 without a BOM! Just the record, SciTE _always_ set the BOM when Unicode is selected... (so you can rewrite your files with SciTE too) From aaa at aaaa.com Mon May 23 18:06:11 2005 From: aaa at aaaa.com (Zen) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 18:06:11 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: USF muxing In-Reply-To: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <4291FF73.6030505@aaaa.com> Moritz Bunkus wrote: > 7. CodecID is "S_TEXT/USF" at the moment, but as Chris pointed out, USF > may also contain images. So maybe "S_USF" might be more > appropriate. Comments? I am not sure it is good : USF is planned for Subtitles. Subtitles are text. Images in USF should be text which can not be easily converted in a text format (chinese, japan...), so we can say that it is text, images are only a technical mean to have the text showned. So, I prefer "S_TEXT/USF" Zen, developper of MediaInfo http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net From moritz at bunkus.org Mon May 23 22:55:13 2005 From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:55:13 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] USF muxing In-Reply-To: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <200505232255.15251.moritz@bunkus.org> Hey, http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/pre//mkvtoolnix-unicode-1.4.2-build20050523-1.rar Fixes special chars in the data like "<", ">" and "&". I've also implemented the extraction of USF subs in mkvextract. Mosu -- If Darl McBride was in charge, he'd probably make marriage unconstitutional too, since clearly it de-emphasizes the commercial nature of normal human interaction, and probably is a major impediment to the commercial growth of prostitution. - Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From chris at matroska.org Tue May 24 00:34:40 2005 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:34:40 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] USF muxing In-Reply-To: <200505232255.15251.moritz@bunkus.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> <200505232255.15251.moritz@bunkus.org> Message-ID: <42925A80.8000806@matroska.org> Kaiousama, Unmei, i cant find the pixifier sources, nor the ones for the dshow decoder filter ? I thought i read the announcement they had been uploaded recently ? Are there any binaries to test ? On http://corecodec.org/projects/usf is nothing, there are no commits neither in the CVS nor SVN repository. Please submit what you have right now, this is important for other devs to validate if the project is active or not. Also i tried to open some SSA subs i had extracted with Mkvextract-GUI / mkvextract from the old Matrix sample ( trying to prepare a USF sample file ), and U96 didnt open the SSA files as created by mkvextract at all. It could open the SRT files which were extracted also, but these were Japanese and Arabic and so i didnt have the right language support installed for it, U96 just put '?' in the text. Please get the Matrix sample http://samples.matroska.org/matrix/Matrix.Reloaded.Trailer-640x346-XviD-1.0beta2-HE_AAC_subtitled.mkv , extract the SSA subs with mkvextract and see if you can open them in U96 2.0 beta. Maybe just my PC is b0rked ? Regards Christian Moritz Bunkus schrieb: >Hey, > >http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/win32/pre//mkvtoolnix-unicode-1.4.2-build20050523-1.rar > >Fixes special chars in the data like "<", ">" and "&". I've also >implemented the extraction of USF subs in mkvextract. > >Mosu > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Matroska-devel mailing list >Matroska-devel at lists.matroska.org >http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-devel > > From jaumesola at wanadoo.es Tue May 24 13:23:47 2005 From: jaumesola at wanadoo.es (Jaume Sol i Marco) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 13:23:47 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Haali's parser don't detect MP4-mode2form2 filesin MPC References: Message-ID: Sorry: Haali's splitter ONLY reads mode2form2 files if they are Matroska. If they are AVI or MP4 Media Player Classic Can't open them. On the other hand, If a manual graph built on the basis of Haali's parser WORKS on AVI & MP4 (MKV too, of course) It seems that a registration of AVI and MP4 on mode 2 form 2 faults. I think this could be a good thing to do. Isn't it? Please need help. Thanks again. "Jaume Sol i Marco" ha escrit en el missatge dels grups de discussi?:d6saf7$h0c$1 at sea.gmane.org... > Hi, > > Haali's parser are able to detect mp4 files with mode2form RIFF but is not > the preferred filter at all. > If I try to open these mp4-mode2form2 files in MPC or whatever (tested > also > in mplayer2, zoomplayer and GraphEdit) it can't ... but if I manually set > the proper filter sequence on GraphEdit IT PLAYS!!!. So in GraphEdit I > Begin > whit Haali's parser + ffdshow video + vireo Renderer and no problem. But > I'm > not able to play these files on MPC because Haali's splitter is not the > preferred filter when a MP4-m2f2 file is opened. If I do in AVI or MKV > mode2form2 files then Haali's works properly. > Please help me (or is it a bug on Haali's?) From lucads at email.it Tue May 24 20:05:33 2005 From: lucads at email.it (Luca Della Santina) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:05:33 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] USF muxing In-Reply-To: <42925A80.8000806@matroska.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> <200505232255.15251.moritz@bunkus.org> <42925A80.8000806@matroska.org> Message-ID: <42936CED.5020402@email.it> Christian HJ Wiesner wrote: > > Kaiousama, Unmei, > > i cant find the pixifier sources, nor the ones for the dshow decoder > filter ? I thought i read the announcement they had been uploaded > recently ? Are there any binaries to test ? On > http://corecodec.org/projects/usf is nothing, there are no commits > neither in the CVS nor SVN repository. Please submit what you have > right now, this is important for other devs to validate if the project > is active or not. Hi, Regarding the directshow filter (PixiShow) no binaries are released at the moment since the filter is quite unstable, i'm working on making it autoload properly when a USF file with the same name of the rendered videoclip is present; then i'll work on an input pin that will accept subtitles from Haali's matroska parser. Anyway, you can find updated source code on the project's cvs, you can all of them in /USF/utils module.Sources are constantly updated, my last commit was on sunday. P.S. I still get return error from corecodec's server when I Checkout/Commit the cvs. Anyway files are correctly checked-ou/committed. Please tell the administrator to solve it. From lucads at email.it Tue May 24 20:18:04 2005 From: lucads at email.it (Luca Della Santina) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:18:04 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] USF muxing In-Reply-To: <42925A80.8000806@matroska.org> References: <200505220948.02132.moritz@bunkus.org> <200505232255.15251.moritz@bunkus.org> <42925A80.8000806@matroska.org> Message-ID: <42936FDC.5030404@email.it> Christian HJ Wiesner wrote: > > Kaiousama, Unmei, > > i cant find the pixifier sources, nor the ones for the dshow decoder > filter ? I thought i read the announcement they had been uploaded > recently ? Are there any binaries to test ? On > http://corecodec.org/projects/usf is nothing, there are no commits > neither in the CVS nor SVN repository. Please submit what you have > right now, this is important for other devs to validate if the project > is active or not. Hi, Regarding the directshow filter (PixiShow) no binaries are released at the moment since the filter is quite unstable, i'm working on making it autoload properly when a USF file with the same name of the rendered videoclip is present; then i'll work on an input pin that will accept subtitles from Haali's matroska parser. Anyway, you can find updated source code on the project's cvs, you can all of them in /USF/utils module.Sources are constantly updated, my last commit was on sunday. P.S. I still get return error from corecodec's server when I Checkout/Commit the cvs. Anyway files are correctly checked-ou/committed. Please tell the administrator to solve it. From NSchell at uci.edu Wed May 25 09:52:06 2005 From: NSchell at uci.edu (Nicholas Schell) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:52:06 -0700 Subject: [Matroska-devel] VSFilter used in newest Matroska Pack Message-ID: <009a01c560fe$a5abb320$7d00a8c0@Nicholi> Sorry ChrisHJW, I didn't realize I was even speaking to your bot. It was late at night about a week ago and I believe I just opened a msg window using tab and saw Chris in it. So the problem is rather strange, and it is in the dll being directly distributed by Gabest (I checked the CRC of the dll in your pack and they were identical). For some reason all of the outline/shadow parameters when left on default are extremely higher then they should be. You can see the difference easily comparing VSFilter 2.36 and 2.35, in which 2.36's will have a much larger outline and shadow borders. Here are some pics. http://img237.echo.cx/img237/646/vsfilter23619yz.png http://img237.echo.cx/img237/9564/vsfilter2362gb.png The first is a fixed 2.36. The 2nd is the dll distributed by Gabest. This seems to effect both SRTs and typeset SSAs (which should have their own outline/shadow). And only if you use default VSFilter settings, as I've heard from people who usually have their own customizations for SRT playback do not see this effect at all. Soon as you switch out the dll's you can see this effect. As far as I know this is only in the Unicode version also, but I would assume that maybe it effects the non-unicode 9x version as well. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From towb at gmx.net Thu May 26 22:34:18 2005 From: towb at gmx.net (Tobias Weber) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 22:34:18 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] codec as attachment Message-ID: Hi, as a reason for playback problems on Windows I heard that .mkv contain the needed codecs which would clash with the ones already installed. I found it rather unlikely that somebody would put platform dependant program code into a video file, and couldn't find evidence for it on the website. Was something like that ever planned? -- Tobias Weber From jcsston at jory.info Thu May 26 23:25:56 2005 From: jcsston at jory.info (jcsston at jory.info) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 16:25:56 -0500 Subject: [Matroska-devel] codec as attachment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42963EE4.6090608@jory.info> Tobias Weber wrote: > Hi, > as a reason for playback problems on Windows I heard that .mkv contain > the needed codecs which would clash with the ones already installed. > I found it rather unlikely that somebody would put platform dependant > program code into a video file, and couldn't find evidence for it on the > website. Was something like that ever planned? > This has been talked about before. However the possibly for abuse, ex. viruses and malware put a damper on the idea. Jory -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Like when and where it came up and if it was ever posted prominently on the website? -- Tobias Weber From tronic2 at sci.fi Fri May 27 01:33:42 2005 From: tronic2 at sci.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lasse_K=E4rkk=E4inen_/_Tronic?=) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 02:33:42 +0300 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: codec as attachment In-Reply-To: References: <42963EE4.6090608@jory.info> Message-ID: <42965CD6.4040401@sci.fi> > Do you know more? Like when and where it came up and if it was ever > posted prominently on the website? This has been discussed thoroughly on IRC, and possibly also on MCF mailing lists. You may want to check out MCF and Matroska mailing list archives, if you are really interested. Even while the idea may seem good, the problems are quite clear: 1. virii & malware - even with an attempt to sandbox, it would simply be a too big security hazard. 2. not possible to do cross-platform binary - would need to compile the codecs from source whenever used. 3. only a very small minority would actually attach codecs. Even though inclusion of codecs was never a serious idea, there actually was a field for "codec URI" in the specifications for a long time, but even that was removed when it became obvious that this would not make it much safer. The website could still easily be malicious and people downloading porn just don't stop to think before they install stuff. Having to Google for the format name, or to look it up in Matroska database (yet to be done, I guess), would bust the air out of most attack attempts. - Tronic - -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I agree that it's a really bad idea. -- Tobias Weber From alex at fsn.hu Sat May 28 21:52:44 2005 From: alex at fsn.hu (Alex Beregszaszi) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 21:52:44 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] LinuxTAG 2005: Linux Video Booth Message-ID: <20050528215244.43837021@caprice.artificis.hu> Hi, We at the MPlayer team are organizing this time the booth aswell. Linuxtag will be held between June 22-25. Right now we have a booth, some fancy posters and we plan to tell people about our "products", new technologies (such as nut, snow, etc) and maybe give them CD-s with cool stuff on it. Also a "hacking contest" is planned, that means everyone is applying patches or writing code in his project while being at Linuxtag. We except quiet much work, as we did last year. Right now I invite all of you to participate, bring along your poster, beamer, notebook, whatever and spread the word. If you know someone deeply interested in this, but didnt get this mail, please make him/her aware. Thanks and awaiting all of you! -- Alex Beregszaszi e-mail: alex at fsn.hu Free Software Network cell: +36 70 3144424 From aaa at aaaa.com Sun May 29 16:30:44 2005 From: aaa at aaaa.com (Zen) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 16:30:44 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: codec as attachment In-Reply-To: <42965CD6.4040401@sci.fi> References: <42963EE4.6090608@jory.info> <42965CD6.4040401@sci.fi> Message-ID: <4299D214.6040709@aaaa.com> Lasse K?rkk?inen / Tronic wrote: > don't stop to think before they install stuff. Having to Google for the > format name, or to look it up in Matroska database (yet to be done, I > guess), would bust the air out of most attack attempts. Softwares like MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sf.net) or G-Spot (http://www.google.fr/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.headbands.com/gspot) are done for this kind of problem : if you want a codec, you have only one click on the file, and you have an URL for downloading the codec. No problem of virus or malware, because of user interaction. From tronic at trn.iki.fi Sun May 29 23:49:30 2005 From: tronic at trn.iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lasse_K=E4rkk=E4inen_/_Tronic?=) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 00:49:30 +0300 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: codec as attachment In-Reply-To: <4299D214.6040709@aaaa.com> References: <42963EE4.6090608@jory.info> <42965CD6.4040401@sci.fi> <4299D214.6040709@aaaa.com> Message-ID: <429A38EA.2060207@trn.iki.fi> > Softwares like MediaInfo (http://mediainfo.sf.net) or G-Spot > (http://www.google.fr/url?sa=U&start=1&q=http://www.headbands.com/gspot) > are done for this kind of problem : if you want a codec, you have only > one click on the file, and you have an URL for downloading the codec. > No problem of virus or malware, because of user interaction. The info comes from reliable source in this case, not from the video file itself (which often comes from malicious website or P2P), and thus is safe. The centralized Matroska codec database would be a similar approach, and IMO would be a very nice thing, if someone just went and actually made it work ... - Tronic - -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 256 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From chris at matroska.org Tue May 31 00:11:47 2005 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:11:47 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Problem with ffdshow setting in 1.1.1 pack Message-ID: <429B8FA3.1000200@matroska.org> Hi, it seems that in the latest pack ( 1.1.1 ) the ffdshow setting 'use overlay mixer' is not enabled by default, leading to MKV aspect ratio correction not working. Anything standing against enabling this as default ? Christian From chris at matroska.org Tue May 31 01:33:53 2005 From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 01:33:53 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Tag comparison/translation site Message-ID: <429BA2E1.9070004@matroska.org> http://age.hobba.nl/audio/tag_frame_reference.html Interesting ! From agebosma at home.nl Tue May 31 16:12:46 2005 From: agebosma at home.nl (Age Bosma) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:12:46 +0200 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Tag comparison/translation site In-Reply-To: <429BA2E1.9070004@matroska.org> References: <429BA2E1.9070004@matroska.org> Message-ID: <429C70DE.5030309@home.nl> Christian HJ Wiesner wrote: > http://age.hobba.nl/audio/tag_frame_reference.html > > Interesting ! Did you not yet know that this referenece existed or is this a sarcastic attempt to remind me I should continue to work on it again? ;-) I basically created the reference together with Paul Bryson and Steve Lhomme and in turn the Matroska tagset is based on this again. Nice to hear you like it though ;-) Cheers, Age From steve.lhomme at free.fr Tue May 31 16:43:17 2005 From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 07:43:17 -0700 Subject: [Matroska-devel] Tag comparison/translation site In-Reply-To: <429C70DE.5030309@home.nl> References: <429BA2E1.9070004@matroska.org> <429C70DE.5030309@home.nl> Message-ID: <429C7805.20502@free.fr> Age Bosma a ?crit : > Christian HJ Wiesner wrote: > >> http://age.hobba.nl/audio/tag_frame_reference.html >> >> Interesting ! > > > Did you not yet know that this referenece existed or is this a sarcastic > attempt to remind me I should continue to work on it again? ;-) > > I basically created the reference together with Paul Bryson and Steve > Lhomme and in turn the Matroska tagset is based on this again. > > Nice to hear you like it though ;-) > > Cheers, > > Age I think Christian is just waking up ;) S