From mik1983 at yandex.ru  Sat Jul  2 15:06:11 2005
From: mik1983 at yandex.ru (Mike)
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 13:06:11 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Haali splitter (26.06.05) and mkv playback problem
Message-ID: <loom.20050702T150037-242@post.gmane.org>

When using haali splitter version from 26.06.05 for mkv, video often hangs 
during jumping to another moment. Where is no such problem when using version 
from 12.06.05. Settings are similar. Vieo in that mkv files was encoded with 
DivX5, Nero h264 and x264.



From liucy at csie.nctu.edu.tw  Thu Jul  7 06:49:50 2005
From: liucy at csie.nctu.edu.tw (=?big5?B?uFKsUg==?=)
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:49:50 +0800
Subject: [Matroska-devel] How to use Core parser lib
Message-ID: <001e01c582af$4f139be0$b4d7718c@love>

Hi all:

I want to write a program can parse MP4 file and send raw stream to video and audio codec.
So I found the Haali Media Splitter.

I download MatroskaParser.zip, but I don't know how to start.
how to generate a instance of "struct InputStream" ?

The web page says that 
"the demo app dumptrack.c that demonstrates how to open a Matroska file and dump all track contents to stdout."
However, I can't find the file.

Any one can help me?

Best regards!
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From mike at po.cs.msu.su  Thu Jul  7 23:48:59 2005
From: mike at po.cs.msu.su (Mike Matsnev)
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2005 01:48:59 +0400
Subject: [Matroska-devel] How to use Core parser lib
In-Reply-To: <001e01c582af$4f139be0$b4d7718c@love>
References: <001e01c582af$4f139be0$b4d7718c@love>
Message-ID: <42CDA34B.10905@po.cs.msu.su>

?? wrote:
> I want to write a program can parse MP4 file and send raw stream to 
> video and audio codec.
> So I found the Haali Media Splitter.
>  
> I download MatroskaParser.zip, but I don't know how to start.
> how to generate a instance of "struct InputStream" ?
>  
> The web page says that
> "the demo app dumptrack.c that demonstrates how to open a Matroska file 
> and dump all track contents to stdout."
> However, I can't find the file.
Sorry, I missed that one last time. I've uploaded a new release with
updated library and a sample file. If you have any further questions,
please ask them here.

/Mike


From chris at matroska.org  Sat Jul  9 09:03:51 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 09:03:51 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] USF support soon in ffdshow ?
Message-ID: <42CF76D7.8040501@matroska.org>



Hi guys,

it seems that Milan Cutka has started to add USF support to ffdshow : 
http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1715 
:) ! Good news !

Christian




From lucads at email.it  Sat Jul  9 10:23:55 2005
From: lucads at email.it (Luca Della Santina)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:23:55 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: USF support soon in ffdshow ?
In-Reply-To: <42CF76D7.8040501@matroska.org>
References: <42CF76D7.8040501@matroska.org>
Message-ID: <42CF899B.5010503@email.it>

Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> it seems that Milan Cutka has started to add USF support to ffdshow : 
> http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1715 
> :) ! Good news !
>
> Christian

Good, i can stop developeing pixishow since ffdshow already supports USF ^_^


From seelie at faireal.net  Sat Jul  9 11:04:22 2005
From: seelie at faireal.net (liisa)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 18:04:22 +0900
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: [usf-devel] Re: USF support soon in ffdshow ?
In-Reply-To: <42CF899B.5010503@email.it>
References: <42CF76D7.8040501@matroska.org>
	<42CF899B.5010503@email.it>
Message-ID: <20050709180422le+pKH@faireal.net>

Luca Della Santina <lucads at email.it> wrote:

> Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:
> 
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > it seems that Milan Cutka has started to add USF support to ffdshow : 
> > http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1715 
> > :) ! Good news !
> >
> > Christian
> 
> Good, i can stop developeing pixishow since ffdshow already supports USF ^_^
> http://usf.corecodec.org
> 

Eh... do you mean it? 

This is great news for sure, but I know how poorly SSA is 
supported by ffdshow at least as of now,
and to say the least USF is as complicated as SSA.

btw Sabbu 0.2.5 was released today.



From blacksun at corecodec.com  Sat Jul  9 10:09:37 2005
From: blacksun at corecodec.com (Ludovic "BlackSun" Vialle)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 10:09:37 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: [usf-devel] USF support soon in ffdshow ?
In-Reply-To: <42CF76D7.8040501@matroska.org>
References: <42CF76D7.8040501@matroska.org>
Message-ID: <42CF8641.8040905@corecodec.com>

Oh my god, this is a very nice news ! Thank you guys for making USF 
living again !

Ludo

Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:

>
>
> Hi guys,
>
> it seems that Milan Cutka has started to add USF support to ffdshow : 
> http://corecodec.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1715 
> :) ! Good news !
>
> Christian
>
>
> http://usf.corecodec.org
>
>



From christian at matroska.org  Sat Jul  9 20:48:12 2005
From: christian at matroska.org (ChristianHJW)
Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 20:48:12 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] [Fwd: Problems with audio and mkv]
Message-ID: <42D01BEC.6020204@matroska.org>

??? What could be the problem with current Xine MKV demuxer ? Mosu ? 
Anybody ?

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: Problems with audio and mkv
Datum: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 23:30:49 -0500
Von: Dashnak <dashnak at gmail.com>
Newsgroups: gmane.comp.video.xine.user

Hello everyone.
I just discovered some problems with my Xine:
While trying to play some mkv files ripped by me (And which I legally
own by the way, just to make that clear), I found that; while the video
and subtitles play just fine, there's no audio at all. I tried all
channels and still nothing. I played them with VLC in both windows and
linux and they worked just fine. The audio stream is mp3 in some and ogg
in others. And not all of the files ripped by me don't work. This is
really odd. Also, when I check the stream properties, Xine "sees"
perfectly the video, but it' just as if the audio track isn't even
there, it doesn't appear in the properties dialog whatsoever. While
writing this I also found out that trying to play my Aliens Vs. Predator
rip crashes Xine for some reason, and that VLC doesn't have a problem,
but anyway...
I would really like to find a way to fix this, I don't like using VLC in
linux, Xine rocks!! Hehehe. Its perfomance and image quality are awesome.
I'm using Kubuntu 5.04 (I really can't remember whether that's warthy or
hoary).
My libxine is 1.0-1ubuntu3.2 and I'm using xine-ui 0.99.3-1ubuntu1
Thanks a lot for your time.

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From wolfburns at gmail.com  Sun Jul 10 07:40:42 2005
From: wolfburns at gmail.com (Jimmy Jarrell)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:40:42 -0400
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Error opening a MKV file
Message-ID: <7e394ce305070922401cbf12e4@mail.gmail.com>

I have installed all the approipriate codecs and I am also using TCMP as 
well as MPC but I still get this error: "First element in file is not EBML." 
I have done some research on your website as well as around the web but I 
haven't been able to find a fix. Any help you can give me would be very 
appreciated.

-- 
Jimmy "WolfBurns" Jarrell
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From chris at matroska.org  Sun Jul 10 10:09:16 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 10:09:16 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Error opening a MKV file
In-Reply-To: <7e394ce305070922401cbf12e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e394ce305070922401cbf12e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42D0D7AC.2090800@matroska.org>

Jimmy,

i am sorry to say that your file has likely been corrupted. I recommend 
you to load mkvtoolnix from http://mkvtoolonix.matroska.org , start the 
GUI ( mmg.exe ) and load your file in there. If mmg doesnt recognize it 
as MKV file, its corrupt.

Christian
matroska project admin


Jimmy Jarrell schrieb:

> I have installed all the approipriate codecs and I am also using TCMP 
> as well as MPC but I still get this error: "First element in file is 
> not EBML."  I have done some research on your website as well as 
> around the web but I haven't been able to find a fix.  Any help you 
> can give me would be very appreciated.
> Jimmy "WolfBurns" Jarrell




From Roger.Kirchhofer at swisscom.com  Mon Jul 11 21:33:26 2005
From: Roger.Kirchhofer at swisscom.com (Roger.Kirchhofer at swisscom.com)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:33:26 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] control matroskafilter from another program
Message-ID: <BA297A3C15B62C419216F152CB2F3B2E02A64AD5@sxmbx53.corproot.net>

hi there, it may be a good idea to implement something to control the
matroskasplitter from another program. for example to change subtitles
and audio channels using a remote control. or create a plugin for a
media center solution. something like there is in vsfilter. what do you
think about that? or did i miss something and ther is already something
to do that?
best regards, roger.


From paul at msn.com  Tue Jul 12 04:07:59 2005
From: paul at msn.com (Atamido)
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 21:07:59 -0500
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Apple's Core Audio File container format
Message-ID: <dav8l7$8in$1@sea.gmane.org>

Hi all,

It hasn't really been publicized much yet, but Apple has a new
container file format called CAF:

    http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MusicAudio/Reference/CAFSpec/

CAF files current support integer and float PCM formats, A-law,
u-law and a number of others including AAC and Apple's own Apple
Lossless Audio Codec (alac).

I have already implemented support for what I can (PCM, A-law,
u-law) in a libsndfile pre-release:

     http://www.mega-nerd.com/tmp/libsndfile-1.0.12pre10.tar.gz

and I'm thinking of adding support for FLAC in a CAF container
as well. Is anyone else working on this? If so please let me
know so we can agree on how FLAC should be contained with CAF.

Cheers,
Erik
-- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Erik de 
Castro Lopo nospam at mega-nerd.com (Yes it's valid) 
+-----------------------------------------------------------+ "If you 
are going to SCO to license superior driver technology, you need to 
reevaluate your product." -- Comment about SUN and SCO on Linuxtoday.com 
_______________________________________________ Flac-dev mailing list 
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From a1muelle at edu.uni-klu.ac.at  Tue Jul 12 10:49:46 2005
From: a1muelle at edu.uni-klu.ac.at (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Armin_M=FCller?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:49:46 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] How to use Core parser lib
Message-ID: <45C980B3-7053-4ED9-9956-2E624B3456B8@edu.uni-klu.ac.at>

Hello,

I tried to comile the dumptrack.c demo (on SuSE Linux 9.3) but did  
not succeed. It seems thst the comiling went fine, but the linking  
process gives several errors. I think that the linking of the zlib is  
involved, but i'm not quite sure.

@Mike: can you please tell how you comile the dumptrack.c or include  
the Makefile in the .zip?

armin at kermit:~/MatroskaParser> gcc dumptrack.c
dumptrack.c: In function `main':
dumptrack.c:157: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
dumptrack.c:158: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
dumptrack.c:159: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
dumptrack.c:160: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
dumptrack.c:161: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
dumptrack.c:162: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
dumptrack.c:163: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
dumptrack.c:164: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x31b): In function `main':
dumptrack.c: undefined reference to `mkv_OpenEx'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x37c):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`mkv_GetNumTracks'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x39d):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`mkv_GetTrackInfo'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x41a):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`mkv_GetNumTracks'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x463):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`mkv_SetTrackMask'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x477):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`mkv_GetTrackInfo'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x4a6):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`cs_Create'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x50f):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`mkv_ReadFrame'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x545):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`cs_NextFrame'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x562):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`cs_ReadData'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x585):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`cs_GetLastError'
/tmp/ccW5n2iH.o(.text+0x74f):dumptrack.c: undefined reference to  
`mkv_Close'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status




regards,
Armin



From wolfburns at gmail.com  Wed Jul 13 06:59:59 2005
From: wolfburns at gmail.com (Jimmy Jarrell)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:59:59 -0400
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Trying to open a MKV file that is beind downloaded.
Message-ID: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>

I have installed all the approipriate codecs and I am also using TCMP as 
well as MPC but I still get this error: "First element in file is not EBML." 
The file I am trying to open is one that is currently be downloaded and I 
wanted to view the file to make sure it was what the title said. I have done 
some research on your website as well as around the web but I haven't been 
able to find a fix. Would the fact that I am still downloading the file 
produce this error? Thank you for any help.

-- 
Jimmy "WolfBurns" Jarrell
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From chris at matroska.org  Wed Jul 13 07:34:07 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:34:07 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Trying to open a MKV file that is beind
	downloaded.
In-Reply-To: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42D4A7CF.6060805@matroska.org>

Jimmy Jarrell schrieb:

> I have installed all the approipriate codecs and I am also using TCMP 
> as well as MPC but I still get this error: "First element in file is 
> not EBML."  The file I am trying to open is one that is currently be 
> downloaded and I wanted to view the file to make sure it was what the 
> title said.  I have done some research on your website as well as 
> around the web but I haven't been able to find a fix.  

Well done about researching first, thats not the usual habit :)

> Would the fact that I am still downloading the file produce this 
> error?  Thank you for any help.
> Jimmy "WolfBurns" Jarrell

Very likely, yes, DirectShow players are pretty picky sometimes. You may 
try VLC from http://www.videolan.org instead . Its not DirectShow based 
and will play even truncated files IIRC , only problem is it wont work 
for MKV files with Realvideo ( RV 9/10 ) content.

Christian


From moritz at bunkus.org  Wed Jul 13 09:45:25 2005
From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:45:25 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Trying to open a MKV file that is beind
	downloaded.
In-Reply-To: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200507130945.26147.moritz@bunkus.org>

Hey,

On Wednesday 13 July 2005 06:59, Jimmy Jarrell wrote:
> I have installed all the approipriate codecs and I am also using TCMP as
> well as MPC but I still get this error: "First element in file is not
> EBML." The file I am trying to open is one that is currently be
> downloaded

The "usual" peer-to-peer programs work by downloading random pieces from
users that already have that piece. In your case it seems that the very
start of the file has not been downloaded yet. And that is indeed
required to identify a file properly. The first part also contains the
track headers etc -- all the information that is vital for playback. So
until you've downloaded that part you won't have any luck playing such a
file, sorry.

Mosu

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From mike at po.cs.msu.su  Wed Jul 13 09:46:53 2005
From: mike at po.cs.msu.su (Mike Matsnev)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:46:53 +0400
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Trying to open a MKV file that is beind
	downloaded.
In-Reply-To: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050713074653.GA28831@azog.po.cs.msu.su>

On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 12:59:59AM -0400, Jimmy Jarrell wrote:
> I have installed all the approipriate codecs and I am also using TCMP as 
> well as MPC but I still get this error: "First element in file is not EBML." 
> The file I am trying to open is one that is currently be downloaded and I 
> wanted to view the file to make sure it was what the title said. I have done 
> some research on your website as well as around the web but I haven't been 
> able to find a fix. Would the fact that I am still downloading the file 
> produce this error? Thank you for any help.
This means that the very first header of the file is not downloaded yet.
The file cannot be played without it.

/Mike


From tronic+lzID=udcq2v6pl5 at trn.iki.fi  Wed Jul 13 13:41:11 2005
From: tronic+lzID=udcq2v6pl5 at trn.iki.fi (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lasse_K=E4rkk=E4inen_/_Tronic?=)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:41:11 +0300
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Trying to open a MKV file that is
	beind	downloaded.
In-Reply-To: <200507130945.26147.moritz@bunkus.org>
References: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<200507130945.26147.moritz@bunkus.org>
Message-ID: <42D4FDD7.7010304@trn.iki.fi>

> track headers etc -- all the information that is vital for playback. So
> until you've downloaded that part you won't have any luck playing such a
> file, sorry.

Hmm.. When were the backup copies of important headers abandoned? Or is
that just not implemented yet?

- Tronic -
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From mike at po.cs.msu.su  Wed Jul 13 16:32:20 2005
From: mike at po.cs.msu.su (Mike Matsnev)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:32:20 +0400
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Trying to open a MKV file that is
	beind	downloaded.
In-Reply-To: <42D4FDD7.7010304@trn.iki.fi>
References: <7e394ce30507122159422a6c2d@mail.gmail.com>
	<200507130945.26147.moritz@bunkus.org>
	<42D4FDD7.7010304@trn.iki.fi>
Message-ID: <20050713143220.GA30597@azog.po.cs.msu.su>

On Wed, Jul 13, 2005 at 02:41:11PM +0300, Lasse K?rkk?inen / Tronic wrote:
> > track headers etc -- all the information that is vital for playback. So
> > until you've downloaded that part you won't have any luck playing such a
> > file, sorry.
> 
> Hmm.. When were the backup copies of important headers abandoned? Or is
> that just not implemented yet?
There is an option to write them, but there is no way the splitter can
know that after a pile of garbage there will be some valid mkv
clusters, that's the job of some specialized recovery tool.

/Mike


From mairaleemai at hotmail.com  Wed Jul 13 17:58:04 2005
From: mairaleemai at hotmail.com (maira lee)
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:58:04 +0000
Subject: [Matroska-devel] help!!!
Message-ID: <BAY7-F141FC8D944F413D004AFFAB0DE0@phx.gbl>

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From christian at matroska.org  Thu Jul 14 23:23:41 2005
From: christian at matroska.org (ChristianHJW)
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:23:41 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] [Fwd: [streaming] wis-streamer: A new open source
 live streaming server  application for Linux]
Message-ID: <42D6D7DD.9060703@matroska.org>

FYI

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: [streaming] wis-streamer: A new open source live streaming 
server  application for Linux


Live Networks, Inc. (LIVE.COM) and WIS Technologies are pleased to announce
the availability of "wis-streamer" - an open source, standards-compliant
RTSP/RTP server application that streams encoded video and audio from the
Linux WIS GO7007 driver.  This driver supports several low-cost,
off-the-shelf hardware video encoder devices, including:
	- Plextor ConvertX M402U and TV402U
	- NorthQ NQ6600
	- Georgia Technologies GA-VD207

The "wis-streamer" application can stream video in MPEG-4 (default),
MPEG-1, MPEG-2 or motion-JPEG format, and can stream audio in raw PCM, or
8-bit u-law format.  The resulting stream can be viewed by
standards-compliant RTSP/RTP media player clients, such as VLC and
QuickTime Player.

For more information, see <http://www.live.com/wis-streamer/>

	Ross Finlayson
	LIVE.COM
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From bizzi at albacom.net  Wed Jul 20 15:09:05 2005
From: bizzi at albacom.net (Fabio Bizzi)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 15:09:05 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Dirac Support
Message-ID: <42DE4CF1.2030507@albacom.net>

Hi,

will matroska container support the "Dirac" 
http://dirac.sourceforge.net/ codec?

Thank you.

Cheers.

	Fabio.


From paul at msn.com  Wed Jul 20 18:15:44 2005
From: paul at msn.com (Atamido)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:15:44 -0500
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Dirac Support
In-Reply-To: <42DE4CF1.2030507@albacom.net>
References: <42DE4CF1.2030507@albacom.net>
Message-ID: <dbltb8$1av$1@sea.gmane.org>

Fabio Bizzi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> will matroska container support the "Dirac" 
> http://dirac.sourceforge.net/ codec?

The Dirac developers don't mind if Dirac is put in Matroska.
http://sourceforge.net/forum/message.php?msg_id=3009291

But right now the codec hasn't reached a stable enough state to bother. 
  Once the VFW interface is ready, it will be like any other codec.  For 
native support, it will require a stable bitstream.


Atamido



From paul at msn.com  Wed Jul 20 18:19:04 2005
From: paul at msn.com (Paul Bryson)
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:19:04 -0500
Subject: [Matroska-devel] libannodex 0.7.1 released
Message-ID: <dblthh$2h2$1@sea.gmane.org>



libannodex 0.7.1 Release
-------------------------

libannodex is a C library providing a simple programming interface for 
reading
and writing Annodex media. Annodex is an open standards based technology 
that
extends the World Wide Web's hyperlinking, searching, and compositing
infrastructure to time-continuous data, enabling video surfing, searching 
for
clips of audio and video files using ordinary Web search engines, and
on-the-fly composition of a video on a Web server from previously annodexed
clips. For more information on Annodex, see http://www.annodex.net/ 





From christian at matroska.org  Thu Jul 21 23:59:07 2005
From: christian at matroska.org (ChristianHJW)
Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:59:07 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: synchronized playback of several videos
In-Reply-To: <op.st9nstauc1jnuc@satellite>
References: <op.st9nstauc1jnuc@satellite>
Message-ID: <42E01AAB.7070405@matroska.org>

Oliver Koenig schrieb:
> About two years ago - working for a summer job - I started looking for a
> possibility to play back stereoscopic videos in 720p HD resolution.  
> Therefore
> it was necessary to play back two different streams perfectly simultanuous.
> As all available and affordable solutions were only able to handle PAL 
> or  NTSC
> (normal DVD-playback) I decided to create my own solution.

Just so you know :

matroska multimedia container can hold any number of video streams 
inside a single file, and will even allow for different codecs and/or 
resolutions.

mkvmerge supports muxing of these files already since more than a year, 
and on DirectShow we recently added video stream switching into our 
current matroska splitter filter. Sad tough, that DShow will not easily 
allow displaying two video streams simultaneously, Xine would definitely 
be much better suited for this.

I dont know if Xine's matroska parser code would allow to add playback 
of more than one video track from a single MKV file at the same time 
easily, or switching between the tracks. Responsible dev to answer.

Christian
matroska project admin
http://www.matroska.org


From mroi at users.sourceforge.net  Fri Jul 22 15:36:15 2005
From: mroi at users.sourceforge.net (Michael Roitzsch)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:36:15 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: [xine-devel] Re: synchronized playback of
	several videos
In-Reply-To: <42E01AAB.7070405@matroska.org>
References: <op.st9nstauc1jnuc@satellite> <42E01AAB.7070405@matroska.org>
Message-ID: <D68198D0-6BD9-4428-822C-DC0EC0019FBD@users.sourceforge.net>

Hi,

> I dont know if Xine's matroska parser code would allow to add  
> playback of more than one video track from a single MKV file at the  
> same time easily, or switching between the tracks. Responsible dev  
> to answer.

Stream switching at the demuxer level would be possible with the  
current architecture, but feeding multiple streams out of one demuxer  
is not supported yet.

Michael



From thibaut.mattern at gmail.com  Fri Jul 22 18:19:00 2005
From: thibaut.mattern at gmail.com (Thibaut Mattern)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:19:00 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: [xine-devel] Re: synchronized playback of
	several videos
In-Reply-To: <42E01AAB.7070405@matroska.org>
References: <op.st9nstauc1jnuc@satellite> <42E01AAB.7070405@matroska.org>
Message-ID: <7531f3630507220919698b1252@mail.gmail.com>

On 7/21/05, ChristianHJW <christian at matroska.org> wrote:
> Oliver Koenig schrieb:
> > About two years ago - working for a summer job - I started looking for a
> > possibility to play back stereoscopic videos in 720p HD resolution.
> > Therefore
> > it was necessary to play back two different streams perfectly simultanuous.
> > As all available and affordable solutions were only able to handle PAL
> > or  NTSC
> > (normal DVD-playback) I decided to create my own solution.
> 
> Just so you know :
> 
> matroska multimedia container can hold any number of video streams
> inside a single file, and will even allow for different codecs and/or
> resolutions.

yes, other containers can do that too (at least more than one video or
audio track).
 
> mkvmerge supports muxing of these files already since more than a year,
> and on DirectShow we recently added video stream switching into our
> current matroska splitter filter. Sad tough, that DShow will not easily
> allow displaying two video streams simultaneously, Xine would definitely
> be much better suited for this.

the engine cannot decode two tracks from the same stream simultaneously.
I think the engine could easily be enhanced to allow multiple
video/audio decoders per stream. That would involve a new API entry to
wire a video track to a video port, and a big decoder loop rewrite to
handle that.
Thinking about it, it should not be too complicated.

> I dont know if Xine's matroska parser code would allow to add playback
> of more than one video track from a single MKV file at the same time
> easily, or switching between the tracks. Responsible dev to answer.

It's not a parser problem, the engine is simply not designed to use
more than one video decoder per stream. Switching between audio tracks
is handled correctly, it should be easy to port that feature to the
video decoder loop.

> Christian
> matroska project admin
> http://www.matroska.org

Thibaut


From steve.lhomme at free.fr  Fri Jul 22 20:33:56 2005
From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme)
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:33:56 -0700
Subject: [Matroska-devel] [Fwd: [gst-devel] DirectX sinks for Windows status]
Message-ID: <42E13C14.3000403@free.fr>



-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [gst-devel] DirectX sinks for Windows status
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:32:09 +0200
From: Michal Benes <michal.benes at xeris.cz>
Organization: Xeris s.r.o.
To: Maciej Katafiasz <ml at mathrick.org>,	Jamie Macbeth 
<macbeth at ccrma.Stanford.EDU>, chris at matroska.org,	barady at radtime.com, 
barady at radtime.com,	gstreamer-devel <gstreamer-devel at lists.sourceforge.net>


Hello everybody (interested),

	I am sending a new status report about sinks for Windows. At last, I
had success and I was able build working audio and video sink. You can
find all the information at the new project page
http://gstreamer.xeris.cz/

	Also, we have a first working video player for Windows based on
GStreamer framework, check screenshots at
http://gstreamer.xeris.cz/ixion.html

	As I am neither DirectX nor GStreamer expert, I would welcome any help
from you.

	First of all, the GStreamer port to Windows seems to be quite unstable,
I suspect there may be some problems with the assembler code in
GStreamer and plugins. I am using MinGW with GCC 3.4.2 (are there any
known issues?).

	My next project is to fill the Windows related bugs to bugzilla.

	And once more: any feedback is welcomed.

	Regards

		Michal
	



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From chris at matroska.org  Wed Jul 27 22:26:59 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 22:26:59 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] ratDVD navigation filter sourcecode
Message-ID: <42E7EE13.7000204@matroska.org>


Hi,

i was asking the author of ratDVD to release the full sources of his 
navigation fillter rather than just wrapping libdvdnav by using a COM 
interface : http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/215044

Christian


From mike0berg at gmail.com  Fri Jul 29 00:08:42 2005
From: mike0berg at gmail.com (Michael Berganovsky)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:08:42 -0400
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Problem with recent versions of Haali splitter?
Message-ID: <5f009b23050728150834879c02@mail.gmail.com>

I noticed strange problem with recent versions of Haali matroska
splitter. I have a couple of MKV files which I am playing directly
from  DVD media using Zoom Player. Nothing special - DivX 5.21 video
stream, ogg and AC3 audio streams. My computers are fast enough
(nothing slower then 2 CPU 2GHz P4) - and it works perfectly with
splitter verion 26/06/2005 and earlier. When updated to recent
versions video playback is very jumpy - it seems to get frozen for a
couple of seconds every now and then. This seems to be connected with
accessing media (LED on DVD reader is lighting at exactly the same
moment as video freezes). With old splitter DVD was accessed with
regular intervals which seems to be not true anymore. Did somebody see
it and is there a way around the problem?

Thank You


From steve.lhomme at free.fr  Fri Jul 29 05:40:19 2005
From: steve.lhomme at free.fr (Steve Lhomme)
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 20:40:19 -0700
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ratDVD navigation filter sourcecode
In-Reply-To: <42E7EE13.7000204@matroska.org>
References: <42E7EE13.7000204@matroska.org>
Message-ID: <42E9A523.7050008@free.fr>

Cool, now we are sure any collaboration with that guy will be a PITA...

Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> i was asking the author of ratDVD to release the full sources of his 
> navigation fillter rather than just wrapping libdvdnav by using a COM 
> interface : http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/215044
> 
> Christian
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From chris at matroska.org  Fri Jul 29 07:51:38 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 07:51:38 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: ratDVD navigation filter sourcecode
In-Reply-To: <42E9A523.7050008@free.fr>
References: <42E7EE13.7000204@matroska.org> <42E9A523.7050008@free.fr>
Message-ID: <42E9C3EA.2080800@matroska.org>

You're a dreamer. What collaboration ? I was asking him politely in an 
earlier message to publish his filter sources, so we can have a look. 
His answer was wrapping libdvdnav into a COM interface to access it from 
his navigation filter, guess why that is ? Because he cares so much 
about the GPL ??
It's more than clear that this guy has commercial interests about 
ratDVD, and for this very reason he won't publish those keyelements of 
his program. This post is the first step only, next step will be calling 
on the GNU lawyers for GPL violation, this is the ONLY way to get his 
sourcecode. And BTW, this was a group decision on IRC, while you were 
absent.

Christian

Steve Lhomme schrieb:

> Cool, now we are sure any collaboration with that guy will be a PITA...
>
> Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>> i was asking the author of ratDVD to release the full sources of his 
>> navigation fillter rather than just wrapping libdvdnav by using a COM 
>> interface : http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/215044
>> Christian 
>



From chris at matroska.org  Fri Jul 29 08:00:01 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:00:01 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-general] Re: [Matroska-devel] Re: ratDVD navigation
	filter sourcecode
In-Reply-To: <42E9C3EA.2080800@matroska.org>
References: <42E7EE13.7000204@matroska.org> <42E9A523.7050008@free.fr>
	<42E9C3EA.2080800@matroska.org>
Message-ID: <42E9C5E1.4030701@matroska.org>

While we are at it, can somebody from the dev team pls. reply to Doom9's 
answer here :

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=97893&highlight=ratdvd

[quote]Actually, the matter of COM has come up in the developer forum 
before: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=97210
I cannot claim this is a general consensus, but the way we left that 
thread seems to hint that COM actually allows you to use GPL code 
without falling under the linking clause.
I only have VC# installed so I cannot try and compile, but it does 
appear to me as if the libdvdnav download package on the ratDVD site 
does contain the whole component so I fail to see the GPL violation.[/quote]

This is completely different than what we have found during our 
discussion on IRC. Toff didnt find the complete sources of the DShow 
filter in the download, but only libdvdnav itself with the COM 
interface. Also, if wrapping code into COM make is possible to use it in 
apllicance with the GPL, the complete GPL itself is obsolete as this 
will mean you can use any GPL code in closed source apps. This is what i 
learned from Toff during our conversation on IRC.

Christian



Christian HJ Wiesner schrieb:

> You're a dreamer. What collaboration ? I was asking him politely in an 
> earlier message to publish his filter sources, so we can have a look. 
> His answer was wrapping libdvdnav into a COM interface to access it 
> from his navigation filter, guess why that is ? Because he cares so 
> much about the GPL ??
> It's more than clear that this guy has commercial interests about 
> ratDVD, and for this very reason he won't publish those keyelements of 
> his program. This post is the first step only, next step will be 
> calling on the GNU lawyers for GPL violation, this is the ONLY way to 
> get his sourcecode. And BTW, this was a group decision on IRC, while 
> you were absent.
>
> Christian
>
> Steve Lhomme schrieb:
>
>> Cool, now we are sure any collaboration with that guy will be a PITA...
>>
>> Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> i was asking the author of ratDVD to release the full sources of his 
>>> navigation fillter rather than just wrapping libdvdnav by using a 
>>> COM interface : http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/215044
>>> Christian 
>>
>>
>
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> Read Matroska-General on GMane: 
> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.matroska.general
>



From chris at matroska.org  Sat Jul 30 12:26:40 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:26:40 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Delphi sources
In-Reply-To: <12522728241.20050730142204@bolidesoft.com>
References: <12522728241.20050730142204@bolidesoft.com>
Message-ID: <42EB55E0.2080909@matroska.org>


Hi Max,

i am not aware of Delphi libs for matroska parsing, but would Java maybe 
help you out ? BTW, i copied the matroska-devel mailing list on this 
email, it's ideal for such requests.

Regards
Christian
matroska project admin

Max Smirnoff schrieb:

>Hello !
> 
>Do you have any Delphi sources or examples to read *.mkv files?
>
>I need to read from *.mkv at least technical info like movie duration,
>video and audio streams bitrate, frame resolution and so on.
>
>And it will be great if I can playback Matroska files and grab any
>frames image
>
>  
>



From christophe.paris at free.fr  Sat Jul 30 13:35:06 2005
From: christophe.paris at free.fr (Christophe PARIS)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:35:06 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Delphi sources
In-Reply-To: <42EB55E0.2080909@matroska.org>
References: <12522728241.20050730142204@bolidesoft.com>
	<42EB55E0.2080909@matroska.org>
Message-ID: <42EB65EA.6000906@free.fr>

Hi,

There is some Delphi code to deal with Matroska files in MatroskaDiag.
The Matroska Parser is not complete (it doesn't parse clusters) but
it's good if you want to get info on a Matroska file.

http://www.matroska.org/~toff/MatroskaDiag_20050730_src.rar

The interesting unit is MatroskaHelper.pas
And you can see how it is used in TMainForm.ProcessMatroskaInfoStep1


For playback and grabbing frame, DirectShow is probably a solution.
In fact you could look at the Matroska Shell Extension to see how it is done.


Regards Toff


Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:

> 
> Hi Max,
> 
> i am not aware of Delphi libs for matroska parsing, but would Java maybe 
> help you out ? BTW, i copied the matroska-devel mailing list on this 
> email, it's ideal for such requests.
> 
> Regards
> Christian
> matroska project admin
> 
> Max Smirnoff schrieb:
> 
>> Hello !
>>
>> Do you have any Delphi sources or examples to read *.mkv files?
>>
>> I need to read from *.mkv at least technical info like movie duration,
>> video and audio streams bitrate, frame resolution and so on.
>>
>> And it will be great if I can playback Matroska files and grab any
>> frames image
>>
>>  
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Matroska-devel at lists.matroska.org
> http://lists.matroska.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/matroska-devel
> Read Matroska-Devel on GMane: 
> http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.matroska.devel
> 
> 



From chris at matroska.org  Sat Jul 30 13:51:47 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:51:47 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: Delphi sources
In-Reply-To: <12627771222.20050730154607@bolidesoft.com>
References: <12522728241.20050730142204@bolidesoft.com>
	<42EB55E0.2080909@matroska.org>
	<12627771222.20050730154607@bolidesoft.com>
Message-ID: <42EB69D3.1020502@matroska.org>


Max,

if you did what i told you and directed this email to matroska-devel 
mailing list, you had an answer already from the owner of the code, 
Christophe Paris. He is the only one who can license the code to you, as 
it doesnt belong to the team or to me, but only to him.

Christian


Max Smirnoff schrieb:

>Hello Christian,
>
>Can I use Matroska in my shareware software?
>I mean only open, parse and possibly play them
>
>Saturday, July 30, 2005, 2:26:40 PM, you wrote:
>
>
>CHW> i am not aware of Delphi libs for matroska parsing, but would Java maybe
>CHW> help you out ? BTW, i copied the matroska-devel mailing list on this 
>CHW> email, it's ideal for such requests.
>
>CHW> Regards
>CHW> Christian
>CHW> matroska project admin
>
>CHW> Max Smirnoff schrieb:
>
>  
>
>>>Hello !
>>>
>>>Do you have any Delphi sources or examples to read *.mkv files?
>>>
>>>I need to read from *.mkv at least technical info like movie duration,
>>>video and audio streams bitrate, frame resolution and so on.
>>>
>>>And it will be great if I can playback Matroska files and grab any
>>>frames image
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>



From chris at matroska.org  Sat Jul 30 21:10:14 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:10:14 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: [xine-user] Re: More on Mpeg2 in Matroska
In-Reply-To: <18bc366d05073011574a7df74@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20050729165028.GC411@tigershaunt.com>	
	<42EB2622.5070308@matroska.org>
	<18bc366d05073011574a7df74@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <42EBD096.7030002@matroska.org>

Hi James,

copying matroska-devel on this, so the devs will know. Answers below

James Stembridge schrieb:

>Hi Christian,
>
>On 7/30/05, ChristianHJW <christian at matroska.org> wrote:
>  
>
>>What happens if you remove the .idx subtitles ( vobsub ), but leave the
>>rest unchanged ?
>>    
>>
>
>I don't think that's the cause of the problem, I've tried muxing a
>plain m2v into mkv and there are indeed problems with playing this
>file with xine.
>I wonder, does matroska store mpeg-2 frames in display rather than
>coding order? The docs don't seem very clear on the matter, but
>looking at the decoded result I'm guessing it might be the former - I
>which case we'll have to buffer/re-order frames before feeding them to
>libmpeg2. James.
>  
>
Bear in mind, i am just a helper person with a big mouth, and at least 
from a technical point of view i normally dont have a clue what i am 
talking about ;-). I hope our devs will correct me immediately, should i 
talk nonsense. In fact, IIRC you can create a valid MKV file ( in theory 
) by throwing the frames into the file in any order you like, the 
important thing is that the timestamps given to every block ( = frame in 
99,99% of the cases ) are in display order. Of course, most MKV muxing 
apps will put the frames into the MKV file in coding order, as given to 
them by the encoder or source container, meaning that especially for 
b-frames the timestamps on the blocks will NOT be in the right order. 
Hope this help to identify and solve the problem you are facing.

Christian
matroska project admin
http://www.matroska.org


From moritz at bunkus.org  Sat Jul 30 21:29:06 2005
From: moritz at bunkus.org (Moritz Bunkus)
Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2005 21:29:06 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: [xine-user] Re: More on Mpeg2 in Matroska
In-Reply-To: <42EBD096.7030002@matroska.org>
References: <20050729165028.GC411@tigershaunt.com>
	<18bc366d05073011574a7df74@mail.gmail.com>
	<42EBD096.7030002@matroska.org>
Message-ID: <200507302129.12016.moritz@bunkus.org>

Hey,

On Saturday 30 July 2005 21:10, Christian HJ Wiesner wrote:

> >I wonder, does matroska store mpeg-2 frames in display rather than
> >coding order?

No, they're stored in coding order and timestamped in display
order. Example:

0 mosu at jaina:/tmp$ mkvinfo -s 'Tori Amos - Strange Little Girl.mkv' | head
Track 1: video, codec ID: V_MPEG2, default duration: 33.367ms (29.970 fps for a video track), language: und, pixel width: 480, pixel height: 480, display width: 640, display height: 480
I frame, track 1, timecode 0 (00:00:00.000), size 12573, adler 0x9f303b98
P frame, track 1, timecode 133 (00:00:00.133), size 5327, adler 0x5cd12b42
B frame, track 1, timecode 33 (00:00:00.033), size 2083, adler 0xc9f54758
B frame, track 1, timecode 67 (00:00:00.067), size 5378, adler 0x02ec3179
B frame, track 1, timecode 100 (00:00:00.100), size 2496, adler 0x2c7e9f32
P frame, track 1, timecode 267 (00:00:00.267), size 18422, adler 0x52ee7564
B frame, track 1, timecode 167 (00:00:00.167), size 1518, adler 0xa435bcac
B frame, track 1, timecode 200 (00:00:00.200), size 6748, adler 0x09c32e01
B frame, track 1, timecode 234 (00:00:00.234), size 11885, adler 0xfebb3e04

Mosu

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From chris at matroska.org  Sun Jul 31 11:55:20 2005
From: chris at matroska.org (Christian HJ Wiesner)
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 11:55:20 +0200
Subject: [Matroska-devel] Re: MingW conflict,
	was : DirectX sinks for Windows status
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Hi Michal,

some more tests with your latest binaries from 25/07/2005 :

1. During running gst-register.bat it will complain about a missing 
libogg-0.dll

2. I can open the Ixion.exe now, and the player will start fine, no need 
to use Ixion.bat anymore

3. I still cant open any files, not even simple WAV audio files

Here my questions to you :

a. Can you implement the basic gstreamer audio and video tests into the 
GUI ? Again, if i copy all the libs into the player main router i can 
start audio and the first of the two video tests ( but only the first ) 
you named me the command line. I believe these 3 basic tests should be 
callable from the GUI for the normal user, they cant mess with CLI.

b. As soon as we do have the exe working here on all my PCs, i liked to 
create an opensource project on our OSS platform  CORECODEC  on 
http://www.corecodec.org , and announce the alpha player on our 
homepage. I still believe gstreamer could be a basis for TCMP 6, and 
ixion could become the start of it all. This way you had no bandwidth 
problems as we would distribute all the binareies.

What do you think  ?

Christian



Michal Benes schrieb:

>Hi,
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>>1) when you move the window, the video overlay remains at the original
>>position anyway
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>	I know about this issue. In fact, my Windows does not get the "changed
>position" or resized event. May be I have forgot some parameter when
>initializing it or I have handled some previous events wrong. Does
>somebody who knows the Windows API have any clue?
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>>2) crashes after a few minutes 
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>	Yes my windows build is very very unstable. I will look into it. I not
>sure it is in the sinks, it seems to me there are some problems also in
>other plugins. 
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>>As for the audiosink, it works with sinesrc fine but not so well with
>>other audio.  I played an mp3 and it plays too fast and has some
>>popping in it.  Maybe your clock timing is wrong.
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>	Yes, I have the problem with popping too. As for too fast audio
>playback, I have seen this issue when the audio file had unsupported
>audiorate, but I have raised the limit to 100000 what should be enough
>(or not?)
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>>gst-launch.bat filesrc "location=E:/video.vob" ! decodebin "name=d" {
>>d. ! ffmpegcolorspace ! videoscale ! ddrawsink } { d. ! audioconvert !
>>dsoundsink }
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>	You must add queue element between threads. The correct command is
>gst-launch.bat filesrc "location=E:/video.vob" ! decodebin
>"name=d" { d. ! queue ! ffmpegcolorspace ! videoscale ! ddrawsink }
>{ d. ! queue ! audioconvert ! dsoundsink }
>
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>>Another issue, which may be an internal bug is when I try to decode
>>the mp2 audio in the vobwith the following:
>>
>>gst-launch-0.8.exe filesrc "location=E:/Video.vob" ! decodebin !
>>audioconvert ! dsoundsink
>>
>>Produces:
>>
>>RUNNING pipeline ...
>>ERROR: from element /pipeline0/decodebin0/ffdec_mp30: Internal
>>GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug.
>>Additional debug info:
>>gstpad.c(2562): gst_pad_set_explicit_caps:
>>/pipeline0/decodebin0/ffdec_mp30: failed to negotiate (try_set_caps
>>with "audio/x-raw-int, rate=(int)48000, channels=(int)2,
>>signed=(boolean)true, endianness=(int)1234, width=(int)16,
>>depth=(int)16" returned REFUSED)
>>ERROR: from element /pipeline0/decodebin0/ffdec_mp30: Internal
>>GStreamer error: negotiation problem.  File a bug.
>>Additional debug info:
>>gstffmpegdec.c(643): gst_ffmpegdec_negotiate:
>>/pipeline0/decodebin0/ffdec_mp30: Failed to link ffmpeg decoder (mp3)
>>to next element
>>Execution ended after 25 iterations (sum 359375000 ns, average
>>14375000 ns, min 0 ns, max 281250000 ns).
>>
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>
>I will try to test test some .vob files. My be I have shipped the old
>version of dsoundsink which supports frequency only up to 41000Hz. (I
>have some other work now but I will look into it this afternoon). You
>can also try to add audioscale element before dsoundsink 
>
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>>As for Ixion...It doesn't work for me.  It just freezes when loading any video.
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>On no, this is bad. i do not have an idea in the moment :(
>
>	Michal 
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